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Motorcycle Discussions => Identify these bikes! => Topic started by: tempo54 on January 19, 2009, 02:27:36 PM

Title: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: tempo54 on January 19, 2009, 02:27:36 PM

norwegian barn find probably british but ahatvulliers9d
eng no,bb6406 frame no 3779 :-* :-*

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: m3bobby on January 19, 2009, 06:19:23 PM

I'm not 100% sure but it could be a James ML clockwork mouse  or a Enfield WD Flying flee. I prefer my first guestimate!

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: 33d6 on January 20, 2009, 12:03:28 AM

Thats a 9D Villiers engine sitting in the frame so it definitely isn't a Royal Enfield Flying Flea.
I strongly suspect the first guess of a James ML is spot on and if you can tell us the frame and engine numbers we can probably tell you whether it is a wartime issue or an immediate postwar civilian model.
Jame made the ML (Military Lightweight) for the armed forces during WWII but kept making it for a few years after the war had finished. They are a popular restoration and a well liked bike.
Cheers,

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: tempo54 on January 20, 2009, 07:43:22 PM

STRANGE ENGINE NO  B6406 FRAME NO 3779

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: m3bobby on January 20, 2009, 08:59:40 PM

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STRANGE ENGINE NO  B6406 FRAME NO 3779

Frame number 3779 falls into a gap of Military James ML. There is a WD contract either side of it, so perhaps this was a foreign contract. The engine number is strange as according to my book all the WD ML's engine numbers had a AAAprefix.

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: 33d6 on January 20, 2009, 09:57:54 PM

B6406 is a very strange engine number for any Villiers engine. As M3bobby says, a WD ML engine number starts with AAA but civilian models are different. The number should start with a 3 figure number. for example, 539/****. B6406 sounds more like a casting number than an engine number. Some postwar 9Ds had the engine number stamped on a brass plate near the gear change and this can fall off leaving just the two mounting holes. Is there anything like this?
Cheers,

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: m3bobby on January 21, 2009, 05:22:00 PM

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B6406 is a very strange engine number for any Villiers engine. As M3bobby says, a WD ML engine number starts with AAA but civilian models are different. The number should start with a 3 figure number. for example, 539/****. B6406 sounds more like a casting number than an engine number. Some postwar 9Ds had the engine number stamped on a brass plate near the gear change and this can fall off leaving just the two mounting holes. Is there anything like this?
Cheers,

I think your right about post war. The tank looks like ML but the WD ML has what looks like a knobed tank cap where as this looks like the Candees type.

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: tempo54 on January 24, 2009, 10:41:25 AM

sorry but the barn finding in norway we set wrong engine number

not b but  s 6406

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: 33d6 on January 25, 2009, 06:32:12 AM

Sorry friend,
S 6406 makes no more sense than B 6406. We are no further forward.
Cheers,

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: spannernut on January 27, 2009, 11:23:48 PM

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Thats a 9D Villiers engine sitting in the frame so it definitely isn't a Royal Enfield Flying Flea.
I strongly suspect the first guess of a James ML is spot on and if you can tell us the frame and engine numbers we can probably tell you whether it is a wartime issue or an immediate postwar civilian model.
Jame made the ML (Military Lightweight) for the armed forces during WWII but kept making it for a few years after the war had finished. They are a popular restoration and a well liked bike.
Cheers,

here's a pic of a mates royal enfield,there are similarities,but its not the same


http://www.flickr.com/photos/29935524@N08/2793631835/

Title: Re: norwegian barn dinding+++
Post by: spannernut on January 27, 2009, 11:28:43 PM

incidently the pics are from my last bike show in dublin in august,i am presently organising another for the 25th april,if you would like to see more pics of the show let me know