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Title: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on June 10, 2009, 01:15:47 AM
HI THERE JUST JOIN TODAY

Okay here we go
1st
What are the handle bars ment to be painted or crome ?
2nd
i need a tool boxs

oh and anything to do with the wireing of the bike
but if you now what battery its ment to hav i'll be sorted but if not its has a wipac headlamp switch and the rear brake switch is wipac as well just wont to make sure i dont get anything wrong
 
oh i hope the pic help's you
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: Rex on June 10, 2009, 10:29:10 PM
Looks to be a good old stager, and largely original, although it looks like some dope has mounted the front mudguard back to front!

I suggest you buy the BSA service sheets (usually lots of photocopies around the 'Net) to see about wiring etc, and Google the 'Net for pics to see how it would have looked.

Nice old bike; always had a soft spot for early Bantams. ;)
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: 33d6 on June 11, 2009, 02:27:03 AM
Nice to see your bike has found a good home. Now for the funny bit. All of your questions can truthfully answered yes, no or maybe. Each is correct. Some D1's had batteries, some didn't. Exhaust systems varied slightly over the years as did the chrome plating or painting of various bits and bobs.
To give a precise answer to everything you first need to identify exactly what Bantam you have. Saying you have a D1 plunger 52 is not enough. D1's came in slightly different varieties.
There are various websites devoted solely to Bantams that can give you an exact history of what was done when and what the relevant frame and engine numbers are. I would first Google them and see what they have to say.
Secondly I would then check to see if what you have is original.  Bantam parts are broadly interchangeable and after nearly 60 years on the road it is a fair bet yours is a bit of a mechanical mystery bag. This is normal. You may have all correct Bantam bits but are they all correct for your version. There is no point fussing about paint or chrome if you don't have the right part anyway.
The Bantam is an ideal bike for a rolling restoration. Use any means to get it on the road first and then start working on getting it right bit by bit as you go along. People are always much happier to help if they see the bike on the road and being ridden.
Best of luck,

Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on June 13, 2009, 12:29:12 AM
hi there

So what do you think about the exhaust ?
and has anyone deal with bamtam john before ?


Engine number 31627YD and frame number YD1S79781

hope this pic will help  
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: Searchguru on June 13, 2009, 06:52:47 PM
Take a look at these Bantams on this site http://www.motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/bsa-bantam-d1-gallery.php
You might get a better idea of their appearance from here
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on June 14, 2009, 12:17:11 AM
thanks for your help there mat but i'v been on that site lol think i hav try just about everything on the internet lol
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: alwaysintheshed on June 29, 2009, 07:39:39 PM
ebay is your best bet for a toolbox but they go for serious money. have you tried http://www.mistgreen.com/ as they have been handy with the restoration of my d1, it seems to me you have the wrong exhaust on there should be one of these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BSA-BANTAM-D1-FISHTAIL-EXHAUST-NEW-1948-1953_W0QQitemZ230352069439QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item35a20da33f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

as these ran to 1953, have you got the original reg with the bike?  
cheers mark.
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on February 27, 2010, 02:51:29 AM
well its been along time since i was on here but i hav not yet finshed my bike still looking for that tool box for it lol well anyway i hav taken i pic of how she is getting on let me now what you think about it



Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: alwaysintheshed on February 27, 2010, 09:59:27 AM
looks really good mate , just finishing rebuilding my dads engine on his 1949 d1 rigid.
hows your engine getting on?
cheers mark.
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952
Post by: budice83 on March 05, 2010, 08:21:44 AM
i'm still on with the engine hope to finsh it this weekend i hope lol
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on March 05, 2010, 11:50:45 AM
Looks great,very similar to the wife's project,although yours looks to have the battery mounted on the other side of the tool box,the wife's doesn't have the battery.Also doesn't quite look as good  :)
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/100_1541.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_0882.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_0885.jpg)
                               Cheers Classic48

              
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on March 05, 2010, 12:06:55 PM
Budice83,
         The blue bike at the start of this post is the same bike????? If so I thought box on the opposite side to the battery was
 THE TOOL BOX? If so and you still have this box,problem solved.
                          Classic
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on March 05, 2010, 05:50:18 PM
hi there yeah the bike at the start of this forum is the same one that's when i 1st got her and that how she looks now part from the engine which is not finshed yet like i say hope to get the rest of the parts this weekend to finsh the work on the engine and hope to get the rest of my stainless bolts as well as for the tool box its not ment to hav that one on its a wipac which has magneto the same as your wife bike your more then wecome to give me it. lol but its what came with the bike so untill i get the new tool box its just going to hav to do for now

anyway hope this has helped you

thanks for asking

oh and one more thing check this web page out its has some info for you about your forks and rear fender

http://bantam.150m.com/history/index.html
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on March 06, 2010, 03:25:01 AM
Yeh,I see your tool box has the single screw to hold the lid on the wifes has 2.Here are some more recent shots.NB also the headlight brackets differ as well.Resto looking great love to see the final result.
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/100_1928.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/100_1929.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/100_1930.jpg)PS The wife said good luck with the tool box, hope you can find one lol :D


 
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on April 30, 2010, 12:21:31 AM
think i hav a cold  :-\ and i still dont hav that tool box yet lol
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on June 13, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/Picture004-1.jpg)
Budice83,Here is a pic of the wife's beesa fuel tank.On hold at the mo although thinking it may need new points,as tried to start,would kick over but wouldn't run.Will get these when I get a new wire loom as well.There are shops here Down Under that cater for the vintage bike restorer so hopefully won't have any trouble.Will keep an eye out here in Australia for a tool box for you if you still need one.The one with two(2) screws to hold the lid if I remember correctly?
ps the wife's gold & red stripes are 8mm adhesive automotive pin striping.
                      Cheers Classic
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: NZGlyn on June 28, 2010, 08:18:05 AM
Hi Budice

I have a 1954 D1 here in New Zealand. It it pretty original except for the headlamp. Your's has a later exhaust and rear light by the look of it. The early ones had a flattened chrome expansion type pipe at the back and are quite loud. Also the battery seems to be on the wrong side. If you e mail me on pickteam@xnet.co.nz I can send you some pictures. I had one in the UK in the 1980's and used to drive between Liverpool and London regularly (camped 1/2 way) and it never let me down. I've altered my single seat by building a triangulated frame to raise it and move it rearwards by 2 inches. I have also made handlebar risers to raise the bars also by about 2 inches. (These were made after the attached image.) I am over 6 foot tall and not so young any more and it was just too cramped for me as standard. I've also put on a 6V  R/R off a Honda CD175 and mini indicators. I'm running a very small 6V sealed battery which lives inside the toolbox. 
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on July 11, 2010, 07:56:54 PM
hi there NZGlyn

yeah i hav been looking for a tool box but and as far as i can tell that the last thing on my bike which is wrong but had no joy in getting my hands on one oh as for the exhuats are you saying thats the wrong one for it ? just that all the bike i hav seen which ar a 1952 had that exhuast on them ?
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on July 12, 2010, 12:57:01 PM
NZGLYN,A work colligue of mine here in Oz has one similar to yours with what he called the "fish tail" style exhaust.Budice I saw your style of tool box on ebay Australia a while ago,thought of you and placed a bid  :),unfortunately lost the bid.Might I suggest broaden your search to other ebay chapters USA,AUSTRALIA,ect http://ebay.com.au   (Australia's ebay site).
                 cheers Leith
PS Just recieved a repro wiring loom from England,purchased off ebay UK  http://ebay.co.uk
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on July 28, 2010, 01:09:30 PM
Ya! Just scored (bought) a set of chrome tank strips for wife's beesa  8),and looking at a rear guard.I'm lead to believe these tank strips are hard to come by let alone in Australia.Must admit they will need re-chroming :).Budice have you changed your exhaust pipe in the restoration from the original post (the blue beesa) appearsto have the same style as the wife's & I see in your latest post it has the flatter (fishtail style ) ??? ??? ??? ???
   Leith
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on August 28, 2010, 08:36:56 AM
Hi Budice
    Finally aquired a rear guard for the wifes beesa,on ebay (American Chapter)  AU$50 cheaper than the 2 I missed on the Australian ebay,so it pays to shop around.A work collegue is doing the front guard for me and should be finished next week,told him about the tank strips and price,he was impressed that I got them for that price,He too is a early/vintage bike enthusiast (pre 1980's).
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1085.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1088.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1087.jpg)
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1083.jpg)As you can see guard needs some TLC but it seems to be all there,ie not cut/modified in any way.As I said the tank strips need
re-chroming.
      Cheers Leith


Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on September 17, 2010, 01:30:59 PM
Make that 2 sets of tank strips  ;) 8) 8) :)
                   Leith
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on October 14, 2010, 11:23:41 PM
hey hows thing not been doing a lot with my bike at the mo been waiting on something getting crome which have just came back like new but the last two month i hav been workng on a t25 camper van lol all done and on the road with that now so back on with the bike getting some w clips this weekend to fit the head lamp and battie box and a battie for it not sure how i'm going to wire it up just yet just that some of the bsa d1 had a stop and a side lamp and some of them just hav a side and no stop lamp so still no sure tho and as well all now i dont hav the right box but that why im fitting the battie untill i find that tool box lol its not that hard to rewire it if and when i find one lol tank strips dont think i hav ever seen a bsa with them on yet so been cool to see your when its done and recromed as well

keep it real
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on October 30, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
As previously stated one of my work colligues has a black Beesa with the chrome tank strips,will see if he minds me posting a pic. Hope you find your tool box soon.I've been keeping an eye on ebay,Aussie chapter,for ya,seen,and bidded,for a couple but unfortunately lost them.Good to hear your making progress.Some pix maybe????????
                   Cheers Leith
 
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: budice83 on January 07, 2011, 12:59:25 AM
hey there and a happy new year to ya

be some time since i hav been on here got my self a vw camper van t25 man what a pain if you get one thing fix's it same to find something else for you to fix nexts lol but thats what happen's when you buy a van of a hippie lol

anyway how are you get on with your bike i still not finshed my yet just keep on getting little bit now and then when i see them but i'm hope to get some work done on it this weekend got to fit some new shoe in the camper and try and get some work done on my friends mgb gt and once i have done that try and get some work done on the old bike for this summer show season

anyway going to stop there

happy new year  :o
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on January 11, 2011, 09:52:23 AM
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1221.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1222.jpg)
Hopefully you are looking at the Beesa to date.
   Leith
Title: Re: BSA D1 PLUNGER 1952 I NEED LOADS OF HELP
Post by: classic48 on April 20, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1280.jpg)(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1280.jpg)
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/classic48/000_1281.jpg)
Budice83,you said you waned to see the beesa with chrome tank strips,here you are.Got a conffesion though,these are a chromed reproduction made by a very talented guy in South Australia ;) :) 8) ;D :D
                               Leith