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Motorcycle Discussions => Identify these bikes! => Topic started by: JeanFabricio on February 14, 2023, 05:38:04 PM
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Please, anyone knows the brand, model and year of that bike?
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Is there a view of the other side of it ?
Firstly, its rigid frame.
So likely to be circa ~1950 or so.
2ndly, the clutch is on the 'wrong' side, so its unlikely to be British.
3rdly, that engine is SMALL (and very neat), so likely to be 50cc (?).
Very popular in Europe since WW2.
Hand gear change may put it into the 1930s however.
Those pressed front forks look like a european style.
German in particular ?
This narrows it down to only a ~ million (?) types !! ?
Is there a detailed view of the handlebars. ?
Even this can tell a lot.
Can you test if any of the nuts/bolts are metric ?
A VERY careful rust treatment of the tank may bring up some colours and maybe even decal remains ?
Phosphoric acid, gently dabbed on and lightly rinsed off is very good for doing this. As is oxalic acid or even vinegar.
I'll thumb through Tragatsch later on, if it doesn't click with someone.
Hopethishelpsabit !
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How about a Rixie ?
https://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/rixe-owners/images/Rixe-1939-Moped-Bjelovar.jpg (https://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/rixe-owners/images/Rixe-1939-Moped-Bjelovar.jpg)
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the Rixe is close, but not quite it I think. The luggage rack and headlamp brackets are different, and the engine is not as upright as in the mystery bike.
Although there were many manufacturers using the Sachs or Ilo 100cc engine in their bikes in the thirties and fourties in Europe, nearly all of them put the engine in the frame with the cylinder barrel slightly inclined forward.
I think the bike in question is a 118cc Husqvarna model 20 "angelwings" of the early fourties as in the following pictures:
https://www.classicmotor.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Husqvarna-98-kubikare-med-ILO-motor-7.jpg
https://www.classicmotor.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/818519.jpg
https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en-kw/Good-old-times/black-red-or-blue.html
Cheers,
Andy
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Thank you, guys!
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Nicely found.
Thats a pint sized motor for +100cc !
nearly all of them put the engine in the frame with the cylinder barrel slightly inclined forward.
I noticed that.
Many of them are moped based also, although this is merely observational trivia.
Makes you realise how big this market must have been, and how many similar offerings were available.
P.S. A slightly later 1951 Husky (tele forks), clearly related.
https://cdn.nettimoto.com/live/2022/03/15/7c5dbd15d591e615-large.jpg
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In the 1950s Royal Enfield sold Model RE engines to quite a few European manufacturers to build into their own cycles. Not a well documented aspect of RE production!
REgards, Mark
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The ole Royal Enfield Flying Flea
https://live.staticflickr.com/7523/15968002942_61f7bb8ee1_b.jpg
Not too dissimilar to what we have here.
But not the same, obviously.
The forks and hand gearchange, hmmmm. ?
Do we know who any of these other manufacturers would have been ?
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Not sure. I wasn't paying a lot of attention I'm afraid! I think a Swedish manufacturer was mentioned, Monark? A big buyer was a Belgian company. I'll see if I can find out.
REgards, Mark
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Ok, I'm informed by Someone Who Knows that Enfield Model RE engines (so the same as the WD/RE military machine) have turned up in Swedish NV machines and others but he's still searching for the pictures of 'others'!
REgards, Mark