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L.A.B.' Thank you very much & thank you to 'Triumph International Owners Club'.  Quite a resource! 

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Early Triumph Engine Find
« on: May 16, 2010, 12:39:05 PM »
I thought that Charlie Collier won the single cylinder class of the first TT on one of his own Matchlesses ?
You are right & I am dumb.  Charlie Collier indeed won the 1907 TT  'Single Cylinder' class with Triumphs taking 2nd & 3rd. The Collier brothers apparently had the field covered as Harry DNF'd & was classified last.  

BTW: I mentioned Indian's 1-2-3 in 1911, the first year of the Snaefell Mountain Course.  USA Indian did so with UK riders Oliver Godfrey, Charles Franklin & Arthur Moorehouse, though Indian's ace factory rider, Jake de Rosier was fast qualifier & led the 1st lap before mechanical problems. [note: I have just recently read he retired because of a fall.  Possibly but 'mechanical problems' & 'fall' are not mutually exclusive.]   Harry Collier, Matchless took 2nd in the Junior.

A big event after the 1911 TT, was a Match Race @ Brooklands between Charlie Collier on the Matchless-J.A.P. 985cc & Jake de Rosier, who took a tight victory in the 3 Heat event.  

  

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Early Triumph Engine Find
« on: May 14, 2010, 06:43:13 AM »
Triumph Production was c. 3,000 per yr in 1911 & 1912. Triumph had many racing successes, won the single cyl. class in 1st TT (1907).[incorrect. Corrected by Rich P below vg]  As you likely know 1911 was 1st yr full mountain circuit used & was swept 1-2-3 by the Indian V-twin made about 80 miles up the road from where I live in Connecticut. 1912 was just after Triumph dropped all pedal gear.  Pretty bike, pretty engine w/gd rep for reliability & the ‘H’ earned the accolade  ‘Trusty Triumph’ in the Great War.  Top speed (1912) c. 50-55mph & be careful – easy bike to get hooked on.    

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Early Triumph Engine Find
« on: May 14, 2010, 06:16:51 AM »

It's a lovely little engine.  I think it was a 500cc from 1911 until the Model H in 1914 which was 550cc & the Triumph that went to war (c.30,000-40,000 to the military, I think 40k closer - 30k to Britian & the rest to CND, ANZAC, etc. )

I know there are #s for every Triumph made, I forget exactly where (likely more than one source) but I doubt you'll have much trouble accessing them.  It is a relatively common bike (for a 1912) I may have some production figures, will check.

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Identify these bikes! / Re: I think it's a BSA
« on: May 12, 2010, 05:51:05 AM »
wow, they made essentially that motorcycle for a long time (but Goldstars, etc. v/long time too.

Apparently the 550 BSA was actually a 557cc.  Likely an H, maybe a K, the H went along & by 1924 was the H-3.

The 1924 H-3 had that Edwadian looking headlamp too.  1914/1915 to 1924 lk v/much the same.  They did all have footboards, but in your photo the front fender is gone so I'd expect the footboards to go bye-bye too.

Look through this link & you'll see lots of familiar BSA's.  

http://www.classicbsamotorcycles.co.uk/

http://www.classicbsamotorcycles.co.uk/1915BSAH.htm


  

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Identify these bikes! / Re: I think it's a BSA
« on: May 12, 2010, 05:17:49 AM »


Probably a 550cc.  I mentioned 1914 & if by chance I'm right matching your photo & what I believe to be a 1914, there would be a good chance the year of the bike in the photo is 1919/1920 because of course from Aug 1914 to Nov 1918 the Great War, so a 1914 & a 1919 would very likely be about or near exactly the same.   

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Identify these bikes! / Re: I think it's a BSA
« on: May 12, 2010, 04:47:53 AM »

Yes, c. 1914 BSA, dif muffler, no front fender, but pretty stock. Feb 1964 Cycle World has a cover feature on a 1914 BSA which sure looks like this bike.   If I get a chance I'll try & be more specific.   

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Classic Motorcycle Sport / Re: ageing bikers
« on: June 15, 2009, 12:37:33 AM »
Hi,

I'm 62 & got my first bike in Nov 1962 (an almost bike - 50cc Ducati Falcon....but soon a 200 Ducati, 175 Jawa & then a terrific  250 Ducati Diana).

I was c 17yo when a man said, 'You're not someone who owns a bike, you're a motorcyclist and that's for life.'

I like bikes from all eras & riders from Freddie Dixon to Steve Plater, Rossi & Stoner.

Last night I was on the Panther site, wrapped up in the 1930s & changes to the 600 single & today MotoGP.

I truly appreciate vintagebike & Nigel's great efforts.  

And of all the aspects of vintagebike, I find 'Period Photos' special & compelling.  

For me I love looking at classic bikes, but more meaningful is viewing the bikes, era & people who so enjoyed them.

Take care, Vin

  

  

  


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American Bikes / Re: 1927 Indian Scout 37" Bores Twin
« on: June 18, 2009, 04:19:02 AM »
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Looks like a very nice Scout.  

Times are tough in the US too.  

I'm not a potential customer, just wondering if you've sold it & how much the 'tough times' have effected the classic market in SA.

It's down a lot in this area, but the sad thing is people who HAVE to sell only because of the economy, but are selling motorcycles they care for so much.  

Good luck

  




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American Bikes / Re: 1927 Indian Scout 37" Bores Twin
« on: June 15, 2009, 12:49:27 AM »
Looks like a very nice Scout.  

Times are tough in the US too.  

I'm not a potential customer, just wondering if you've sold it & how much the 'tough times' have effected the classic market in SA.

It's down a lot in this area, but the sad thing is people who HAVE to sell only because of the economy, but are selling motorcycles they care for so much.  

Good luck

  

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British Bikes / Re: Help! "New" old BSA Starfire 250
« on: October 31, 2009, 08:21:06 PM »
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Good tips ccp01:  You won't believe this, but when I took it to the shop, the old mechanic informed me that is NOT 250, instead it is a 441Victor Shooting Star.  The PO said the wrong decals were on the bike (441 Shooting Star decals).  Well, he was wrong.  So now I 191 extra cc's to contend with.

wow
Extra ccs but maybe same lower end.  Be careful.  Gil

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