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Identify these bikes! / Re: dion buton
« on: December 01, 2005, 07:53:19 PM »
Never heard of Dion Buton.
De Dion Bouton however, were the forefathers of the engine configurations that we all know today. Their efforts were initially involved in powering tricycles from the 1890's into the first decade of the 20th C.

I wonder if your friends moped is an import masquerading under a copy-cat name.

Derek.

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Has anyone seen rear suspention like this?
« on: December 02, 2005, 03:51:16 PM »
"Pre-ignition adjustment" advance and retard (of ignition).

Quite a lot of bikes af the fifties still had 'manual' advance and retard. This would ordinarily be set half way for starting, then set fully advanced for normal running, only needing slight retard if climbing steep hills with the engine starting to 'pink'. The automatic advance and retard device soon overtook the manual for its reliability under all loads and circumstances. It did away with yet another fiddly control lever. Nothing out of the normal for the four stroke Terrot I'm sure, my BSA of 1954 has a manual control also. It was not until the 1960's that automatic A/R was standard fitment (though cars got them sooner).

Derek.

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Has anyone seen rear suspention like this?
« on: December 02, 2005, 03:35:08 AM »
That looks good!
Terrot's were quite advanced in their day. Terrot were taken over by Peugeot in 1961 and the name disappeared that year. The racing department had produced a 175cc bike putting out 18bhp for the 24 hour world record attempt. At Montlhery the bike was tested at over 90mph. But it never happened.

Grammar is not perfect but quite good enough!

Derek.

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Has anyone seen rear suspention like this?
« on: December 01, 2005, 03:46:55 PM »
PS Be nice to see a picture of the whole bike.

Derek.

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Has anyone seen rear suspention like this?
« on: December 01, 2005, 03:44:42 PM »
Unfortunately I have little more information on Terrot. But the French website http://www.lvm.fr/ should be able to furnish some answers.

My encyclopaedia has some pages on Terrot, and mentions larger capacity machines being powered by Zedel, MAG and JAP. From 1949 they produced (amongst others) a 500cc RGST, featuring enclosed rockers in an aluminium rocker box and a fully sprung frame with telescopic forks at the front and a plunger type suspension at the rear. This machine in solo guise was capable of an easy 80mph, were all painted black, and like all other Terrot's post WWII did not have the familiar Terrot fishtail silencer. Unfortunately no picture of that model.

Derek.

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Has anyone seen rear suspention like this?
« on: November 30, 2005, 07:22:45 PM »
If it says Terrot on the tank, then that is what it is! Terrot is a French manufacturer, started making bicycles in 1901 and progressed to motorcycles as did many. They became one of the leading French motorcycle manufacturers producing many 175cc machines. The suspension is 'Plunger' type, the spring is contained within the vertical tube, though this example makes it operate with a 'swinging arm', so it's a combined system.

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Japanese Bikes / Re: need info on my new bike
« on: December 01, 2005, 03:55:28 PM »
Interesting! Those mudguards scream Far East! (I'm in the UK) Could be aftermarket or original, the paint has faded at a different rate. No idea, but try the Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club - website: http://www.vjmc.com/

Derek.

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British Bikes / Re: UNLEADED PETROL
« on: November 30, 2005, 03:30:14 PM »
The Vincent Owner Club have a very good technical write up by Jaqueline Bickerstaff on Leaded Petrol. Go to:
http://www.voc.uk.com/archives/html/petrol.html


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British Bikes / Re: MC2 Magneto
« on: December 04, 2005, 04:33:10 PM »
I have had no dealings or connections with this person, but there's a chap in Chessington Surrey (UK) who works on magnetos and advertises in the VMCC magazine. His email address is stuart.towner@blueyonder.co.uk He may be able to identify.

Derek.

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British Bikes / Re: WHERE IS IT NOW
« on: November 30, 2005, 03:24:48 PM »
The DVLA are under fire just now for selling personal/vehicle details to would be and convicted criminals.

A 'Where is it now' forum or main category here would be pretty good.

What was the registration? I've got RFD 480 (Dudley registered) if it's of any interest.

Any one know the whereabouts of Norton Dommie EMU 308, or Harley KPL 736?

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British Bikes / Re: island of man
« on: November 30, 2005, 03:17:23 PM »
Why Stanstead? It's 230 miles (370km) from London to the port to sail to the Island. Leeds Bradford International, or Manchester are much closer. The Island has its own airport - Ronaldsway. Can you book a flight to there?

Avis, Budget and Godfrey Davis are the big three names in car hire, camping vans are available from specialist hirers, but the Island is well equipped with many hotels and Bed & Breakfast establishments.

. . . And Kippers for breakfast is compulsory!!

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