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Good luck with that one, I have the Super Alce Pre Facone and it's a bit of a handful.  I still have fun riding it most weekends but it suffers from clutch issues.  The spring mechanism is hit-and-miss but when it works it's a lot of fun.  My exhaust washer/seal is off a Suzuki and it works OK. 

Just a note my exhaust is on the left.  That's better for my because all my problems seem to happen on the right hand side.  :-)

Been a while since I posted here and the bikes have been mothballed for a while.  Work has taken over everything but now I have some time off to play again.  I'm working on the Sunbeam S8 at the moment but will get round to that Guzzi clutch very soon.  I found the engine oil was very thick and took a couple of days to drain out.  I have a feeling it contaminated the plates so I will pull them out and wash clean before trying again. 

Killinger und Freund

One motorcycle was discovered by the US Army in the spring of 1945 at a German military installation, but it is not known if this was the original prototype or another Killinger und Freund Motorrad.

The K&F prototype went into storage and was discovered and seized by the U.S. Army at the end of the war.  It was taken to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland, and was placed on display there for a period of time.  Later, it was discovered in a scrap heap and purchased by American collector Harry Buck now in the hands of a scooter club in Ohio. 

The K&F engine (pictured below) is as unconventional as the chassis.  It is a surprisingly small unit designed to be mounted in the imagefront wheel.  It has been described as a three-cylinder two-stroke, but it is far more complex than this.  Rather, it is three two stroke singles with their cranks geared to a center drum which carries the clutch and a two-speed transmission.

I thought you might like to see this odd front wheel drive bike.  I know a bit about it but see what you think. 

I have a Suzuki Hustler handbook not in perfect condition but it is complete.  The little 64 page handbook they put in the tool roll of a new bike. 

It was given to me in error when I bought a new TS250R from a shop in the East end of London from Howard Powell Limited and their stamp is inside the front cover.  Easy mistake to make it was the dark ages.   

If anyone has a Hustler and would like it, get in touch and I'll post it to you if you're on the UK mainland.  Outside that you can help with postage. 

If you would like it and you don't have a Hustler get in touch anyway but I will wait for an owner before sending it. 

Just a quick update, I rode it Boxing day but the clutch slipped like mad.  There was an oil circulation problem and the cylinder got quite hot.  I found the oil to be very thick so I drained it out.  That took all day to empty so when I said thick I meant treacle, my guess it's why the clutch slipped. 

Fresh oil was added, 30 grade and I'll change it again soon.  The engine warmed through nicely and I don't think there is any damage.  I found I could adjust the Dell'orto carb to a very slow tick over and it has a smooth pick-up from anywhere in the rev-range.  I'm so impressed I may fit a pair to replace the Amal on my Triumph. 

we have been drowned in rain the past couple of days in South London so I hope it dries out a bit for the weekend so I can give it another ride.  All the things I worried about like the heel brake and rocker gear change wasn't an issue. 

Christmas day morning and the family are round.  Best place for me is the workshop fitting the suspension part, they were only moaning about the weather and repeats on the TV anyway. 

I didn't have any red paint so I did it black for now and left it in the airing cupboard over night to harden.  It went straight in and while I was looking for a couple of stainless steel 8mm bolts I found an aerosol of red.  Isn't that normal, never mind. 





I wanted to ride it today but the weather is against me, thunderstorms and hailstones isn't good to ride a bike with heel operated back brake and heel-and-toe gears for the first time.  Maybe tomorrow. 

Welded it up today, what a cow of a job.  Tried to Arc weld it with all kinds of rod at various amps and the 1/8" flat wouldn't take to the Italian steel.  Ground it out three times and in the end it was getting silly.  We went and got some gas for the TIG and that did it.  Trouble is we had so many goes at it things were getting messy.  Anyway it's done now and all I have to do is drill fresh 8mm holes and it can go back on. 





See what I mean scruffy but the old saying goes.   "A coat of paint hides a multitude of sins"......(Bomber).   

I'll make a new part next year out of flat bar and play with the thickness to see if the geometry changes at all.  I think your right JFerg it's so small it won't matter.  My mate has a plasma cutter so he does some nice shapes.  It's not a hard thing to make. 

Anyway I hope some are enjoying my efforts on this project and would like to see some of you in the flesh in the new year, Oakdene maybe.  From me and the broken Guzzi we wish you a good Christmas. 

Stuart.