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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« on: October 22, 2019, 05:02:46 PM »
Another address where to find 100 and 125cc Terrot parts :  patrice.gerard199 (at) orange.fr

Even if he's selling parts for many years already, he's still having a lot !!!

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British Bikes / Re: Searching for tank origine .......
« on: October 21, 2019, 08:16:49 PM »
Hi John,

At the moment, not being at home, I cannot answer you .... I will check that in two weeks.
I thing the filler cap is threaded, but now ..... not so sure ...  :-[

Anyway, thank you all, I really appreciate your help !!  ;)

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British Bikes / Re: Searching for tank origine .......
« on: October 21, 2019, 10:13:28 AM »
No, it's because of the light when taking the picture.
It's flat.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot
« on: October 20, 2019, 09:01:59 PM »
Fully agree !!!!  ;)

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British Bikes / Re: Searching for tank origine .......
« on: October 20, 2019, 07:40:33 PM »
Some pictures of the tank ....

Maybe the bottom has been modified in order to fit with the Blackburne engine ??

Not so many have two tapped holes on the side .... and most of the ones I've found having the same shape are having the place for the saddle at the bottom .... or the tap on the side.

Anyway, if you have any idea, please do not hesitate to tell me !!  ;)

Thank you very much !!  ;)

Regards

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British Bikes / Searching for tank origine .......
« on: October 20, 2019, 07:33:14 PM »
Gents,

One year ago I bought a French motorcycle in Germany.
It's a Magnat Debon CSS1 from 1931.
This is the last model having a Blackburne engine (so it's almost British ...  :D )

When I bought it it looked like a ... "bitza" ... (lucas magneto, big dellorto carb, ...)

After 1 year searching for original parts, it's a bit better

Anyway, I would like to know where this petrol tank is coming from.
Just to know ....

It seems to be from British motorcycle.
I've searched already a lot on google but didn't find.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot
« on: October 20, 2019, 04:11:34 PM »
And I forgot ..... working from time to time on this M344 100cc  for my neighbor




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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot
« on: October 20, 2019, 03:58:29 PM »
Some update ....

Blue RSS is still not yet finished.
I had to stop during 4 years ... I'm just restarting now .....

In between I found a 1931 500 NSSL (J.A.P. KOZ/H dry sump engine) and it's almost finished.
3 years to restore it ...
Still have some "oil problem" to fix.

And the last one I found in Germany 1931 500 CSS1 Magnat Debon (same frame than the NSSL but Blackburne engine)
Today, this is the only one known, so I'm quite happy even if I've already spent one year searching for parts ....
But little by little ......

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« on: October 20, 2019, 01:42:46 PM »
I forgot telling you ...

If you are searching for parts for 1940/50's Terrot, contact Kristoffer : terrotspareparts (at) outlook.com
He's living in Sweden but found an old stock in Norway.
He has hundreds of parts !!!!!
He's sorted them by original part numbers (http://terrot.club.pyreneen.free.fr/basse_resol/pieces-detachees/100/mt1/htm-0001.htm)

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« on: October 20, 2019, 12:15:32 PM »
Don't forget that a lot of people in France are not speaking English especially "old" ones .....
Most of the guys knowing and interested in these pieces of scrap (like my wife uses to say) are not young fellows.

On top of that, most of the time, people not speaking French are using google translate, and when talking about technical things, translation is shit !!!
Very often, impossible to understand.

After, yes, like everywhere, you will find good and stupid people ........
Some of the forums have "bad" reputation, even in France.
That's why on my forum (originally Terrot) I've created an "other brand" section.

And when discussing in English or Spanish, I'm trying to do my best .......




 

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« on: October 20, 2019, 11:39:26 AM »
Ok everything is said ?
Sorry for the 23 pages before but I had a look and found really interesting informations !

Like some guys in the discussion, I would be surprised that the problem comes from the carb, but anyway.

It was possible to have these motorcycle with an Amac 903/165 or a Gurtner R17.
Gurtner are more easy to find.
But, for information, it's possible to find parts, if needed, for Amac : http://www.carburologue82.fr/64-t-903913923933943-r1-r2

On another hand, Graham, have you tried contacting people who restored the same motorcycle to get proper information ?
(timing adjustement, type of seals, ....)
http://www.breizhmotoancienne.com/2015/11/restauration-motorette-terrot-100-de1951.html for example.

One guy knowing perfectly this kind of motorcycle : Charlie ( charlie.amk(at)gmail.com )
He did already several of them.







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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« on: October 20, 2019, 12:50:18 AM »
Oh come on,
Quote
4 French bikes there, no bits,
were you really surprised?

French stuff like yours is a very niche interest,as you say the frogs don't like them either, a hint perhaps?

Mind you it might be because you are a Brit, they  mostly dislike us and right now are having a sulk.

Maybe my English is not good enough and I misunderstood something .....

If you take time to have a real look on "Frog's forum", you will see that 100 and 125 cc represent more than 50% of the subjects.

Now If you give up with a simple 2 strokes engine, what should I've done when spending 3 years on my 500 JAP from 1930.
Do you think it has been easy to find parts ?
I had to search all over the world !
Help from English clubs or manufacturers ... ? In your dreams!

I bought the piston almost the price of your 100cc .....
And If you imagine that it started at the first time, I can tell you the engine compression is not the same than yours !

I must be completely mad because now it's almost finished, I've found a 500 Blackburne from 1929 .... and, for sure, it will be worse.

Ok your motorcycle is a Terrot, and what ?? a 2 strokes engine works the same way independently of the manufacturer.

Regarding the carb, plenty people in France replaces them by Dellorto.
Honestly I wouldn't do it but why not, if it's the way to have it working ?

But please, forget your Villier ou Chinese scrap.

Move your ass, restart from the beginning, check everything and finish it properly !!
And If I have to find you a $%^&&ing carburetor, I will do it.

PS : I didn't take time to read this subject from the beginning but I'm going to do it.
Because, when I read Mini-me "mechanical literature" the level seems not to be very high ... which is logic compare to the pseudo.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« on: October 19, 2019, 09:54:49 PM »
I cannot get anywhere on the French Terrot Forum, nobody likes this design of bike as it is not seen as a classic 'real' bike there, but I simply am seeking some experienced help from people who know far more than I about these things.


Are you serious ??

Are you talking about this subject ?
https://500rgas.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1735&p=35100&hilit=MT1#p35100

Maybe that one ?
http://terrot.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19164&hilit=MT1

It's been a pleasure, trying helping you !!

When I see the way you're talking about French.
Hopefully, we are not doing the same with English .... just a question of respect

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/respect




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European and Other Bikes / Terrot
« on: November 10, 2013, 01:46:10 PM »
Just for the fun and to put some pictures on the forum !

350 HSS from 1928



I will restaure mechanical parts (engine gear box, ..) but I will keep it in this condition.

350 HSSG-R from 1935 (fully restaured)



350 B4TL from 1954



500 RGAS from 1948



with DTP side car (not yet finished)




And the one I'm restauring at the moment: 500 RSS from 1934



The result should be something like that (in 2 or 3 years ....) :






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European and Other Bikes / Re: 1953 Terrot 125cc
« on: November 10, 2013, 01:13:59 PM »
It's a bit expensive, but this one is brand new !!
http://www.macadam2roues.com/fr/fiche_produit.php?idprod=1045&idfamille=263&idrayon=12

This one seems to be in good condition : http://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_moto/506611461.htm?ca=22_s
Cleaned, Restom treatment inside and would be ok.

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