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British Bikes / Re: Albion Gearbox Grease/Oil
« on: January 22, 2022, 05:24:41 PM »
Brilliant 33d6!! Just the information I needed.  Cheers!! Ian

British Bikes / Re: Albion Gearbox Grease/Oil
« on: January 20, 2022, 08:29:27 PM »
Thanks 32d6 for the info. To be honest I did have a problem finding the gearbox and ended up getting mine sent from Sweden. I think someone had taken it apart and itís probably why it got the Swedish ball bearings?? However I think when it was put back together the kickstart spring didnít get put back properly, as it was floating loose in the case when I split it apart. Do you know in the type C, if the spring goes under the kickstarter gear spring is supposed to retract the gear completely away from the engaging gear, or stay engaged. I suspect the spring should be between the gear and the case when the kickstarter comes through, so the gear should disengage?? Any ideas would be appreciated!!

British Bikes / Re: Albion Gearbox Grease/Oil
« on: January 18, 2022, 10:40:29 PM »
Hi guys, thanks for you input. I reread the comments and omitted that it is a type ĎCí gearbox and I have advertising material which says the McKenzie had either a 2 speed gearbox or a 3 speed gearbox, which cost an extra 6 shillings!! The gearbox has a ball bearing on the main shaft, but looks like a later replacement, as it is stamped with made in Sweden, which I donít think the Brummies who made it used?? So  although it will do the job doesnít look like an original part. The rest of the box gears etc is thou. I will rebuild this week end then bolt onto the bikes brazed on frame extension!!

British Bikes / Re: Albion Gearbox Grease/Oil
« on: January 14, 2022, 09:20:27 PM »
Hi, the gearbox is a 1923 3 speed version with a clutch, which uses ball bearings to support the shaft. I was thinking the gaps between the ball bearings would be an obvious place for oil to leak out of the main case. When disassembled it the content looked more like a thick lol/grease rather than the thin type of oils used in England blocks.. The gearbox will be fitted to a 1923 mcKenzie motorcycle my dad bought and was going to restore. Alas he never got around to it and I have inherited when I cleared my mums house out at the end of last year. I managed to find out the correct gearbox for the bike, which my dad never did and have made a pulley for the belt drive it was supposed to use. Any info is much appreciated!!

British Bikes / Re: Albion Gearbox Grease/Oil
« on: January 11, 2022, 06:41:10 PM »
Hi Thanks for the replies about my gearbox. The case is marked with use MobileOil ďbbĒ. When I took it apart to restore the lubrication looked like a grease, but I suspect it had been taken apart before, I was given the honour. This is why I think the kickstarter spring was loose in the case!!

I assume I need to find a modern oil etc which has the same properties of the original or something which does the same job but in a more efficient modern matter?? To give you an idea of itís age it is circa 1923, so obviously an antique and very little chance of a workshop manual/spare parts!!

British Bikes / Albion Gearbox Grease/Oil
« on: January 10, 2022, 05:10:55 PM »
Hi, can anyone tell me if my 1923 Albion Featherlight Gearbox should be filled with Grease or Oil?? It has a ďuseĒ Mobiloil label on the case, but I canít find any info on what it might be? Also when I took it apart, the kickstart spring was loose in the case, so I have no idea how it was originally setup!! Should the spring pull the kickstart gear completely away from the internal gears it meshes with, or should it always be set to be meshed with the internal gears?? Any ideas ??

Thanks Ian

Autojumble / Re: Bardon Choke & Albion gearbox Kickstarter & Gearchange
« on: October 23, 2021, 09:40:44 PM »
Thank again for the info Leon, and itís a Webb carburettor. I have the manufacturers ďinventoryĒ of most of the parts used on the bike  ie saddle manufacturer = brooks, choke control = Bowden. Just havenít seen one on eBay yet?? I know I could get anything to work, just trying to be as original as possible..

Cheers Ian

Autojumble / Bardon Choke & Albion gearbox Kickstarter & Gearchange
« on: October 21, 2021, 10:24:56 PM »
Hi, I am looking for a Bardon choke control for my 1923 restoration project, and now I have got the right gearbox for my machine, I am missing a kickstart lever, and the Albion gearbox lever. If anyone has any spares, or a contact, I would love to know.. Thanks Ian

Image shows what I am missing on the gearbox!!

British Bikes / Re: Recommendations for custom part manufacture??
« on: October 06, 2021, 09:20:54 PM »
Some good thoughts out there, 3D Printers are great but in metal does seem to be more expensive. I have seen some  ďmetal pipe joinsĒ which seem to have the profile I am after, so I might be able to repurpose one of these to do the job. If not I can easily make a mould, but never tried metal casting before.Looks like it may be possible from home, depends on how much I want to burn myself lol!!

I have also tested and tried an aluminium block and can sort of make the bracket I need, but itíll take an awful amount of cutting, grinding etc to get it into a shape which looks original.. perhaps as mentioned my local aero drone, where they repair aluminium engine blocks might have the skills/kit I need??

British Bikes / Recommendations for custom part manufacture??
« on: October 05, 2021, 11:55:52 PM »
I have a engine block, which has 2 engine mounts missing, so I have a slight problem that I canít bolt and fit it to the frame. Can anyone recommend someone who can make low quantity metal items such as these, Which also  donít cost a fortune?? Thanks Ian

British Bikes / Re: Attaching Rim to Wheel??
« on: October 05, 2021, 11:48:48 PM »
Hi Leon, the standard model as per your photo came without a gearbox, but for an additional £7 6s they would braze a mounting to the front of the frame, re-enamel it and give you a new gearbox, which sat in front of the frame and just behind the front wheel!! A metal chain connected the engine to the gearbox, which then powered the rear wheel via a belt. Why it all wasnít a chain, I donít know, I suspect might have been for better traction, but just a guess on my part!! Anyway my bike has the bracket on the frame so has been converted. I know i could have sawn it off, and gone back to standard, but as I have found the right gearbox, why not go the extra mile!! I just have to work out where I can get the right drive pulley and Cog which fit on the gearbox drive shaft and all should be good one!! Ian

British Bikes / Re: Attaching Rim to Wheel??
« on: October 04, 2021, 02:14:21 PM »
Hi Leon, thanks for the Info and as you can see I have about 60% of the whole thing!! I have a lot  of items missing, Brakes, Saddle Stem, Handlebars etc, but I am gradually getting the missing items, once I have identified what they were originally!! I have tracked down the right saddle and more importantly the Albion Type C gearbox which is right for the era, so slowly we advance!! The frame of the bike only allows the width of the rear wheel to go through it, so I am guessing I have to pass the rim through the narrow part of the frame, then the wheel then join the 2 together in situe!! Letís hope there is never a puncture as changing the wheel is going be a right pain!! Thank again Ian

British Bikes / Re: Attaching Rim to Wheel??
« on: September 29, 2021, 11:11:12 PM »
Thanks for the info, I have seen a bolt type arrangement with a hole in the shank, which the spoke passes through, but at £20 for 4 seems an expensive way to do things especially as
You have to take the wheel apart to access the spokes.
Your idea seems a better solution, I guess I just need to find some small
Plates now!!

British Bikes / Attaching Rim to Wheel??
« on: September 29, 2021, 10:45:21 AM »
Hi, I am restoring a 1923 McKenzie motorcycle, which has a belt rim, which should be attached to the rear wheel spokes. Has anyone got any recommendations of the best way of doing this, as obviously it needs to be secure enough so it doesnít break spokes etc??

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