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British Bikes / Re: J.A.P. EXHAUST VALVE TIMING
« on: March 25, 2014, 09:49:04 AM »

Like this one (from the 1907 Chater Lea catalogue)? Or the later motorcycle style?

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: J.A.P. EXHAUST VALVE TIMING
« on: March 24, 2014, 05:33:24 AM »
Hi Tony,
I'm with John - keep those drills away! I suspect the "blanks" you're referring to only get you inside the water jacket anyway. Presumably you will lift the cylinders off to have a look inside before you start it. Give it a good internal clean and lube, and set the exhaust timing while a cylinder is off when its easy to see TDC with good accuracy. Don't forget that the V twin has two different firing intervals, so if you set the exhaust valve of cylinder no. 1 (rear) to close at TDC, check that no. 2 closes at 360 + 50 = 410 degrees later (i.e. at TDC of the front cylinder). If it doesn't, you're timing it on the wrong cylinder for that lump in the cam.
Presumably your motor looks something like the illustration below. Later versions - JAP probably built them up to 1911 or 1912 - have strengthening ribs on the cases but are otherwise similar.
Do tell more about the cyclecar to which it was fitted in 1914.
Leon

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British Bikes / Re: J.A.P. EXHAUST VALVE TIMING
« on: March 22, 2014, 12:00:18 PM »

Hi Tony,
Sounds like an interesting engine - a photo would be nice. Do you have a bike for it to live in?
I assume you have the exhaust cam and followers, so the best plan would be to measure the dwell first. That is, for how many degrees are the exhaust valves open? Given the early date, you might find that it is not much more than 180 degrees; perhaps 200 - 220. In this case you might just set the exhaust valves to close at TDC, or maybe 5 degrees after. With atmospheric inlets, it was not fashionable to leave the exhaust open much beyond TDC. (Valve overlap was being used by some racers before WW1, but it was not universally adopted.)
For the ignition, try 35 degrees before TDC fully advanced. Should be plenty.
With the atmospheric inlets, make sure the valve spring tensions are accurately matched, and restrict the opening of the valves so that they don't get too excited and flutter everywhere. Try something like 3/16" maximum opening.
Good luck!
Leon

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British Bikes / Re: HB Motorcycles
« on: January 13, 2014, 09:42:08 PM »

Keep at it Steve!

I wouldn't be suspicious of the HB photos: I think the "tank badge on the front mudguard" is actually the HB logo cast onto the pad on the end of the brake pedal, which is located at the front of the left foot board. The bike is not perfect (for example the rear stand is not original, and one or two other pieces) but as a vintage bike nut it looks pretty good to me;good enough to ride as is. Besides, if you were going to fake a bike with a Blackburne motor I doubt HB would be the one you would choose! If you're in a position to acquire an HB bike, or even if you're only looking for info, advertise widely. PreWarCar.com would be well read in Belgium, and I'm sure that whatever the big old bike club is in Belgium they would be happy for a small article on your connection to and interest in HB and a plea for contact with the current owner of the bike.

Good luck!

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: to restore or not
« on: November 30, 2013, 10:21:30 AM »

The link above is to a photo of the Duigan plane with the modified engine, with water-cooled heads and larger bore. Note the vertical radiator and chain drive to the propeller. The photo below shows the Lennox bike engine compared with the first version of the J. E. Tilley engine for the plane, which was air cooled and drove the prop by belt.

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: to restore or not
« on: November 29, 2013, 11:33:07 PM »

The Lennox is unusual for an Australian-made bike as it uses a locally-made engine, with a cylinder and head based on John Duigan's aeroplane - the first Australian built plane to fly. The first four bikes - single speeders - used the actual cylinders and heads off the first iteration of the aeroplane engine, which flew but had only just enough power and tended to overheat. The cylinders and head of this engine were replaced by the manufacturer, J. E. Tilley & Co. in Melbourne, with larger bore cylinders and water cooled heads, and the originals were used by Tilley employee Robbie Robertson, and later his friend Bob King, to build four motor cycles. Subsequent bikes, like mine, used cast copies of the cylinders (originals were machined from steel) and newly-cast heads. According to Robbie Robertson, my bike was the only Lennox fitted with a gearbox (4 speed Jardine). In 1915, while on leave from the Navy, Robbie rode the bike from Bob King's Lennox St motor works down to Yeats' sidecar works further along the street to have the sidecar fitted. So, yes, the whole story is known, much of it from the mouths of those who built it since the previous owner had the bike from 1955 until recently.

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: to restore or not
« on: November 27, 2013, 10:17:29 PM »

A few more jobs before refitting the sidecar, but not painting or plating for this one. the bike is a 1915 Lennox, made in Lennox St, Richmond, a suburb of Melbourne Australia.
Leon

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British Bikes / Re: villiers 10D engine.
« on: November 27, 2013, 10:11:54 PM »

Because it's a two stroke, there must be no air leaks in the crankcase. Reassemble with a smear of your favourite jointing compound between the two faces - I use the treacly non-setting Loctite one but there are many others.
Leon

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Identify these bikes! / Re: can anyone help me identify this old frame.
« on: October 30, 2013, 08:26:02 PM »

You could have fun restoring something like this, but it's up to you. These days I usually advise people to start with something that is close to complete, as restoration is not as easy as it once was. However Indians are a bit different: there is a huge industry in reproduction Indian parts. I'm not sure whether this extends to the Prince, but you could check. What you have is in good order, and if you could find a motor and gearbox you'd be well underway.

The obvious place to start is by asking what happened to the motor and gearbox that were originally in the bike!

Leon

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Identify these bikes! / Re: can anyone help me identify this old frame.
« on: October 29, 2013, 01:43:44 AM »
The small-diameter Prince wheels introduced in 1927 used 25x3.30 tyres. For 1925 the Prince had a wedge tank, for 26 and 27 the tank was made to fit between the tubes of a frame like yours, and for the last year 1928 it had a more curvaceous tank to match the Indian Scout 101 styling. The only year of small wheels and a frame like yours was 1927.

Not common, but it should be possible to find the missing bits.

Leon

Edit: From the tank shape, the Prince in R's link above is 1926-7, rather than 1925 as it is labelled.

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British Bikes / Re: Raleigh 2 3/4
« on: October 25, 2013, 12:23:32 AM »

Hi Caroline,
You could try Bruce Main-Smith & Co http://bruce-main-smith.co.uk/ - presently their website is under reconstruction but there is an email address and phone number for enquiries. You dad should join the VintageMCC, as they have a great library and should be able to help - contact with other Raleigh owners will be a great help. The VMCC will also have a Raleigh marque specialist.
If he hasn't restored before, or even if he has, I suggest you buy him a copy of The Vintage Motorcyclist's Workshop by Radco. The book is recently republished and is packed with great general information. It's a must-have.
And of course he can always pose questions here.
Good luck!
Leon

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British Bikes / Re: quadrant engine
« on: October 25, 2013, 12:16:28 AM »

Nice! Quadrant introduced both mechanic-side-valves and magnetos for 1908, so your motor is almost certainly 1908 or earlier. Of course Quadrant were one of the real pioneer makers - in the 1920s they bragged that they were "Britain's oldest maker of motorcycles" (or similar) and frankly their bikes looked like it!

I know they made their own motors in 1903 (when they famously used just one lever to control everything), so maybe yours is in the range 1903-08. Photos might help.

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: 1932 Wolf Cub
« on: October 21, 2013, 12:08:23 AM »

Worth? Very much less than the $A6,000 paid for the bike on eBay - closer to $600 you'd think but you never know.

This photo http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/OtherTrades/BCN/Wolf1.jpg is probably muck like your bike, and comes from a page about the works where your machine was likely made: http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/OtherTrades/BCN/NewGriffin.htm

There is also a separate page on Wolf motorcycles http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Transport/Motorcycles/Wearwell.htm

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: 1932 Wolf Cub
« on: October 20, 2013, 10:18:01 PM »

We have a world expert on little two strokes on this site: he'll be asking for the engine number, frame number and some photos. Be prepared!

If the bike is mostly complete, I usually suggest a modest restoration with the aim of getting it on the road. Full restoration can be very expensive and difficult these days. Do you have an idea of what you want to do with it?

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: 1932 Wolf Cub
« on: October 20, 2013, 09:39:19 PM »
Hi Dave,

To be able to help, we really need to know what state the beast is in at the moment. A very tidy little Wolf sold on eBay Australia recently http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121191671535 , and my advice to that owner would be to leave well alone. (I doubt the date of 1927, but that's a different matter.) A rusty pile of loose parts would obviously require different treatment.

So post some pics, and if you're missing parts ask for them explicitly (preferably with a photo or description of what you're missing). If you don't have any original literature, that would obviously be a good place to start.

Cheers

Leon

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