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Identify these bikes! / Re: Any idea what this is ?
« on: February 20, 2015, 11:09:08 PM »
Make an interesting and very pretty old banger !
Suggest you contact Howard, he knows his veterans.
Its notes somewhere there he has a watercooled cylinder for this.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/flattank_motorcycles/6142926538/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/flattank_motorcycles/6142371419/

Not entirely sure you have a 1912 model, looks earlier ?
Rex had watercooled engines from 1906...

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British Bikes / Re: Poor parts service and knowledge
« on: February 15, 2015, 09:25:17 PM »
There is a reason that a good parts counter guy was worth his weight in gold back then. !
(but was probably paid peanuts.).
And under the bench was a large range of VERY WELL THUMBED parts books.
And in the front of the parts book for your model, it says in big letters
ALWAYS QUOTE ENGINE AND FRAME NUMBERS.

Common problem. For decades and even centuries now.
As bikes and owners and suppliers get older, its not going to get any simpler either.
Ain't old bikes fun !!

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Help identifying this bike please
« on: February 15, 2015, 03:14:58 AM »
If anybody wants one I´ve got a BSA Beagle surplus to requirements.And a brand new engine for an Ariel 3.

Perhaps it goes, without saying, that designs need to be sensible, reliable and non-maintenance intensive.
Without being too quircky.
Thinking cheapskate produces cheapskate ??

Although commercial success may just be a lottery.
http://assets.amuniversal.com/9d4ab0b076540132bac7005056a9545d

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Help identifying this bike please
« on: February 14, 2015, 10:11:56 PM »
Thats the line of thinking that killed the brit motorcycle industry.... ?

And why Honda and Motobecane and now Zong Shen etc were/are rolling in $$$ for research,
from vast lines of tiddlers for new riders.
There are now more motorcycle manufacturers in Ch*na, and bikes made in China,
than in the rest of the world combined.
Guess where all the future big manufacturers will be ?

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Help identifying this bike please
« on: February 14, 2015, 01:44:29 AM »
Motorcycles are motorcycles Doug, and all are welcome here.

KO reportedly made approx 15,000,000 of these engines,
so thats 15 million 15 year olds mobile on their mopeds.
Oh joy, o freedom. ?
With possibly 3 or 4 change of owners each, thats a lot of 1st time motorcyclists. ?
Now why didn't the Brit factories think of that....
This one looks quite substantially built, so they were made to last ?


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Identify these bikes! / Re: Help identifying this bike please
« on: February 12, 2015, 07:58:49 AM »
Apparently these were known as the Riga -13 Moped.
Riga being in Latvia.

Someone in Argentina has a brand new one.
http://www.arcar.org/moto-krasny-oktyabr-riga-en61469
You'd wonder why someone would want to pay $10k for one,
but good luck anyway !

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Help identifying this bike please
« on: February 11, 2015, 10:54:27 PM »
All I could find with a quick search is that the KO is
produced near Leningrad  in KO = Krasnői Oktjabr factory.
So the engine at least is Russian, and the rest is likely to be too. ?
It seems there was a Latvian Moped Factory "Sarkana Zvaigzne"
which may make it a SZ-50 moped with KO 49cc engine.

There were apparently a series of those engines, from the 1950s,, with rotary valve inlet,
and lately the Chinese have been doing newer more bicycle type versions - but without the rotary inlet.

Not knowing values in Sth Africa, its likely to be worth what someone will pay.
Which is stating the obvious, but unless it is running well, its value is not going to be huge,
mopeds have a following though and its certainly unusual.
Cheers.

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British Bikes / Re: villiers Mk XIV-A 249CC
« on: February 07, 2015, 10:15:48 PM »
Without knowing the points setup of this version, its usually related to making certain the bits that need to be isolated and insulated actually are.

Can you put a multimeter on the output from the coil(s), and verify there is a pulse of voltage when the spark would need one.
A stack of parts may not necessarily give correct spark timing ?

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Vintage Motosacoche 1900's
« on: January 30, 2015, 10:04:53 AM »
Isn't Motosacoche literally an 'engine in a suitcase'  or similar ?

These were popular clip-on type engines for ordinary bicycles.
Add clipon engine, the pulley to the rear wheel and go...

https://buyvintage1.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/motosacoche_3.jpg

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Identify these bikes! / Re: Villiers 197cc
« on: January 23, 2015, 10:32:00 PM »
Think you have a Villiers 6E engine.
You don't show quite enough of it to be certain,
does this look like it.
http://www.geocities.ws/julak_acil/villiers/mk6e_197cc.jpg

Villiers had quite a history with their 197cc engines, covering quite a few years and uses and styles for engines.
Can't find my "Book of the Villiers Engines" but some knowledgeable villiers folks on this site will likely add  more.
It is noted someplace the 6E was replaced in 1953, with a later series of 197cc.

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British Bikes / Re: 1934 Excelsior scout
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:12:59 AM »
An Enfield wiring diagram of the era with similar switch (? tough to tell, they rarely show both sides ) has SH not connected - hence the lack of the screw in your slot ? - and their D  is an A, and goes to t'other terminal on the ammeter.
Can the supplier of your harness advise, they must have some info and a template to make up the harnesses.

Pretty much all british motorcycle makers used a vast range of suppliers - a list of components for most bikes reads like a whos who of british industry, quite apart from the engine and gearbox.
Dunlop, Avon, Amal, Smiths, Lycette, Doherty, Lucas, Millers, KLG etc etc, and thats just in the small parts.
Pretty much all the iron castings and alloy castings and metal pressings were also done by a small number of suppliers, tubing was by a small set of suppliers, paint/enamel from others, etc etc. Sometimes the warranty stated that branded parts were covered by a separate makers warranty - and it was joked that maybe only the decal/badge on the tank was covered by the makers warranty !  Very few makers made the whole lot, and suppliers come and go.
Have fun...


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British Bikes / Re: 1934 Excelsior scout
« on: January 16, 2015, 03:06:08 AM »
Everything R has told you is correct for the Villiers system of the day but Excelsior didn't use it.
About everything I mentioned about the electrical system was applicable to any bikes electrical system - having noted the mentioned dynamo and regulator. 
But warned about possible Villiers bits getting into the act.

Ariel Sqaffers used about the same combination of components mentioned... ?

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British Bikes / Re: 1934 Excelsior scout
« on: January 15, 2015, 10:16:53 PM »
It does make sense, the C stands for charge in 1930s leccy systems.
Don't know a whole lot about how that works, think it switches in a wire wound resistance,
and just charges the battery (unregulated) with no lights switched on.
Ariels of the era used it, amongst others.
Unless you intend to do a lot of riding including lots of night riding, you probably don't need to have it enabled,
especially since you said you have a regulator.
Wartime bikes used it instead to light just the taillight, and the switch setting was changed to a T (for taillight).

Will have a look for a wiring diagram to suit, unless someone jumps in first.



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European and Other Bikes / Re: 1953 Terrot 125cc
« on: January 14, 2015, 10:40:50 PM »
I believe someone added those stripes as I have never seen that before plus when I run my fingers over the paint I can feel the ridges. 

Is that ridges from the stripes, or just on the general tank ?
My older bikes all have stripes that can be felt - mirror smooth finishes and clearcoat hadn't been invented yet !
Ridges in the general tank paint may need a bit of polishing (and sanding out) out and even touching up.

Whatever, redoing that tank should be the last thing you do to your bike. ?
When everything looks better than it does.....

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British Bikes / Re: 1934 Excelsior scout
« on: January 14, 2015, 10:14:45 PM »
Something else to watch, as an afterthought, is that not all Villiers etc bikes back then had battery lighting.
So some things like parking lights and tail lights were often odd voltages like 3v or 4v globes.
If they are then fitted to a 6v battery system, the globe life will be very short indeed.
Check carefully the voltages of these things - and even the headlamp globes.
Don't test them with 6v, use a lower voltage 1st, from small batteries...

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