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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1939 ISDT
« on: Today at 11:03:21 AM »
As Ian says the 1939 ISDT has a great back story, whether bikes were abandoned I can't recall but quite a few competitors rode their bikes home.
What is overlooked is the real help the riders were given by the German organisers to leave Germany before hostilities started, fuel, visa's etc.
Somewhere I have the story in an old issue of either Motorcycle or Motorcycling and I'd suggest that would be a good start for background.
Then the BSA owners club, maybe the ACU.
A surprising number of ex ISDT bikes survive, your may well still be in a collection, even a museum, Sammy Miller might help if he's in a good mood.
Have you checked DVLA records to see if that reg is still on their books?

There has been quite lot written about that 1939 event over the years.

That original ad is full of BS, an upfront dealer would have been subject to prosecution, its a tissue of lies, assumptions and downright ignorance.
Its typical of the crap spouted in ebay ads by sellers of these imports, mostly opportunist "antique"  dealers doing the rounds of the french

As for that reg its got to be fake, I cannot believe that was imported into this country in 1947. No way. 

Obviously with nothing other than what this says and no real providence I took it with a pinch of salt. What do you think ? The V5 I have gives a date of something like 1947 ( I do not have it to hand and do not remember if the reg No is transferable or not ) Any idea where the reg No is from ?

.....Is that seller telling you he has found out he bought a pile of crap for an excessive price and now wishes to unload it. 

None of my  my V5s "give a something like date". ::)

"I took it with a pinch of salt" I'd need enough to grit the M1 to swallow that spiel.

I ought not to get wound up about crap bikes but I still remember the real trouble I had to sell  good honest  bikes years ago, I never sold a dud, and always stood by what I sold, only to see people buy scrappers from my rivals at bigger prices. Then they'd came moaning to me about it. >:( >:(

European and Other Bikes / Re: Whats this engine in 1930's Monet Goyon
« on: January 16, 2018, 05:23:40 PM »
other side

European and Other Bikes / Re: Whats this engine in 1930's Monet Goyon
« on: January 16, 2018, 05:17:37 PM »
Monet Goyon 1930 with Villiers Brooklands  engine.

British Bikes / Re: What's It Worth - '63 Trophy TR6
« on: January 16, 2018, 03:23:36 PM »
4k start as its a mix of years, but still a very nice bike for someone.

European and Other Bikes / Re: Whats this engine in 1930's Monet Goyon
« on: January 16, 2018, 10:08:58 AM » :o :o :o ;) ;) ;)

A lot of French bikes used Villiers engines; Villiers engines were used in all sorts of industrial/agricultural uses.

  edit  I notice yours has a non detachable head, probably off a mower or the like.

France was a bit hard up in the 1930s, then there was that bit of embarrassment 1940-45 which did not help, the 50s were also hard economically. After 80 years its assuming a lot to believe all that iron belongs together, its probably a bitza, and looks to me as if the model number has been modified with a file.

I have seen some ingenious and appalling mods from the hard up or tight fisted to keep transport running from those eras. Somewhere I have a photo taken in Spain of a OHC Sq4 lashed up as a Harley look alike; you'd not believe such bodgery could be mobile.

The god of originality does not work everywhere there is an old bike.

Its a dog, but its yours to love.

PS that carb is not all Amac either,

European and Other Bikes / Re: Whats this engine in 1930's Monet Goyon
« on: January 15, 2018, 09:05:23 PM »
Its a 250cc Ancre de Bateau.

Identify these bikes! / Re: Old monstrosity form a scrap yard needs ID
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:49:48 AM »
It looks to me to be a Communist era lash up. That front wheel is nothing like a  Bohmerland front wheel, its an artillery wheel off a car, and the forks look as if they could be home made by the look of the welding which is rough even by Bulgarian commie standards.

Its a half and half jobbie.Scrap.

There is no deposit on gas bottles in Bulgaria if that pile is anything to go by.

Identify these bikes! / Re: Barr and Stroud mystery bike
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:45:58 AM »
Of course there is no obligation for a Czech registered bike to have been made in Czechoslovakia?

Identify these bikes! / Re: Barr and Stroud mystery bike
« on: January 14, 2018, 09:22:44 PM »
If only that photo was a bit clearer, the name on the tank is nearly readable till the pixels lose it.

Obviously a pillion rider in those shoes!

Identify these bikes! / Re: Old monstrosity form a scrap yard needs ID
« on: January 13, 2018, 05:57:12 PM »
Try searching for Italian efforts.

Publish and be damned!!!!

as someone once said...........

I think it works along the lines of they bought the whole library, and if they photo the photo they sell you the copy, not the original.
Getty have ownership of Hulton library, Illustrated London news, and a host of others.

It amounts to a tax on research.

I think you'll be OK with using that photo as long as you have a disclaimer in the book. I take it it is original photo and not from another publication?
Unlikely anyone will come back at you.

If it really worries you why not join the Society of Authors?

The internet has made the field of copyright a muddy mess.

I have a website which uses a lot of photos from various sources including museums, I always give a credit to the source even when I didn't ask first. Not much anyone can do. Mine is an academic site not a commercial so no-one loses anything.

Example, someone owned a painting and I took photos of it. That person is now dead, and his heir complained that I used that photo and claiming copyright. But the copyright  of the photo I took with previous owners permission,some years before his death is mine, so I can lawfully use it and the moaning heir can lump it. However if I now took a photo of same painting in heirs ownership, that's a different set up altogether.

There is an acceptable formula for this, ask the Society of Authors.

The Getty picture archives got fed up with folk using their images so decided that single use was ok as long as Getty archive got credit; commercial use needs a license.

date is hard,wish we could see the reg no,s.

most likely post 1918, maybe just pre 1914.

you are wrong about Capstan fags, my mate Baccy  McFaggis told me you could only get Woodbines or Craven A back then, and that was for Sassenachs, real Scots smoked sheep daggings, which of course were free. ;D

just been for another look, two bikes are carrying tax disc holders, compulsory carrying of those came in in 1921, so post 1921 for sure.
Interesting, no lamps on any bikes

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