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Identify these bikes! / Re: Triumph 5ta 1960
« on: January 01, 2017, 10:37:35 PM »
What ever it is I think you have a problem at some time coming with the DVLA. Sounds like the bike has just had the doc plates put on it. Its not nicked is it ?

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 31, 2016, 03:29:25 PM »
I probably have a lot of the bits you discarded hanging in one of my lock ups. I have around 4 or 5 sets of steel tubs and 2 sets of glass ones. Again beauty is in the eye of the beholder as I think its a great looking bike and a really great ride.
Na, it was good old British pound notes. Does not say what they sold it for or if it has sold. Its celebrity status giving the mark up. I could of had nearly 30 Bellas for that amount as mine was cheap at quite bit less than a grand :).

 http://www.scooterlab.uk/oasis-album-cover-zundapp-bella-sale-news/

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 31, 2016, 12:08:05 PM »
I have just done google search and found my model, though still shows port holes for sale in a London dealer. They are asking a whopping 20K for there non running bike. The only difference I can see is the bike they have was used on a Oasis album cover :). I will stick it next to my bathtub speed twin as that sort of looks like a scooter ;)
       Cheers, Jon

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 31, 2016, 10:14:50 AM »
Its a 55 R200 model with the 200cc and twin seats. Slightly different body work to the single buddy seat model as the vent is part of the seat support. has the horn on the front, I see some have there,s hidden away. It does not have a electric start only the kick start. It missing some trim, oddly most seem to have the port holes on the side like the Maico Maicoletta  but mine does not and do not think it ever has. A bit odd as unable to find a picture of one with no port holes on. As you say whats not to like? The cast alloy wheels are a very nice touch :). We hunt out that book.
             Cheers,  Jon     

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 30, 2016, 03:34:18 PM »
You guys should take it easy. We don't want yet more people popping off due to getting there knickers in a twist. If you check your karma its obvious to see not many people take a blind bit of notice as to what you have to say. As to the more helpful info you did pass on and I managed to gleam from your posts, well thanks :).
Now go and have a beer and put your feet up.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 30, 2016, 12:13:51 AM »
Thanks for that. I have already sent mail off to most of what you linked but no reply's, maybe as its over the Xmas period. From what I can tell from what I have a ZB is a very well engineered bike. Many cast parts and thick well pressed steel bits. I can see why to many they are regarded as the best of all the scooters. I am not able to comment on the ride. It looks and feels much better than a Vespa I have had in the past and also would seem to be a lot more for the money than many labros. I am looking forward to getting out and about on it, it will take its place along side all my other vintage bikes. I would like to know why you would not want one? Is it just scooters in general or is it a German or non British thing you have?
       Cheers, Jon   

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European and Other Bikes / Zundapp Bella
« on: December 29, 2016, 04:22:45 PM »
Hi, Bought myself a Bella for my xmas present. Never had one before and not really looked closely at one. It was cheap and in need of some restoration. Its missing a few bits. Does anyone who frequents this site have one? Even though there seem to be quite a lot out there its quite difficult to find out much info on them. Seem to be a big German club but not much of a UK one. Sent off a few emails to what I have found but no one has come back to me :(
 Cheers, Jon 

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 23, 2016, 03:03:55 PM »
I have also just got a Bella. Your photos should come in handy for me. Cheers. Would like to see the finished project.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Two lambrettas
« on: November 10, 2016, 10:40:03 PM »
That's what I normally do as most things seem to be for sale or recently sold on Ebay. I cant see any of the lambretta Grand Prixs though? Just a bit of a odd one.
               Jon.

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European and Other Bikes / Two lambrettas
« on: November 09, 2016, 04:19:35 PM »
Hi, I have the chance to buy 2 Lambrettas. They are not my thing as not as old as I like my bikes to be. If I buy them it will only be to sell on. One is a Lambretta Jet 200 on a R plate. runs well has log book has some rust in places. The other is a lambretta Grand Prix 200 on a W plate. Turns over and I don't think it will take a lot to get going. Has a bit of rust and a fibreglass replacement front mudguard. Has a log book. Any approx idea of a value on these? I can see the Jet 200 on the net and I am guessing how it is it may be worth around 1750 to 2000? But not much info on the Grand Prix. Hope someone can give me an idea of what I should think of paying and any profit I get from them can go towards something I have more interest in.
                Cheers, Jon   

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I liked the reference to a Rudge Python in the Ultamas guy Email :) Sadly dont think I will be able to get that linked in ether :) Will see if anyone wants the frame part on the Zundapp owners club site if there is one. Will set about the forks next week and see what can be done with them and if they can be used on my bits and pieces special I am knocking up. Obviously if they turn out to be worth a fortune to a Newmount owner ( a bike I have not come across before) then they can have them and I will find something else ;)
                Cheers, Jon   

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Well done Leon. I thought I was good and finding things out but on this one you have it spot on :) Have had a look and it seems to be a 200 or 250 from 29 to mid 30's ish It has the more common fork blades though they are also identical with a spare brake holder sticking outwards on one side. The cast ones on some of there bikes look interesting. I dont think I would really 100% trust those.  I wonder if both Newmount and Zundapp used Doherty leavers? If only the British Newmount did then bobs your uncle (another one for Google translate :) .
   Cheers, Jon

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Hi Guys. Well I had a go Leon and sent photos to the Ultima guy. He does not think its one of them. He has said why not a British bike :) This was his reply to my question and the photos.
JP Corbier <jpcorbier@wanadoo.fr>
6:16 PM (3 hours ago)

to mitchell, me
Hello,

I undestand your questions about this frame.

First of all : all information I have on Ultima is on the site. I have nothing else. So if you could not find what you are looking for in the site, it means that, very likely, I can't help you. And all my comments here below are based on the documents of the site.

Well. Is this fork from an Ultima. I think not. Why ?
Ultima used to engrave the name "Ultima" on many many parts of their bikes. On your fork, I think you saw nothing of this kind (if not, you would never ask the question). Anyway, the rust may have erased all existing markings.
On your photos, I see a part from the frame which is made of forged (or cast ?) iron. I don't see this technology on any document I present on the site. All the Ultima bikes have a traditionnal frame made of welded iron tubes.
At the top of the fork, one can see an axle with two large washers at each end. On this axle, there are two star shaped washers. These are springs which make the pressure on an other washer (not visible) made of cork. This system makes a kind of amortizer for the front suspension. By trimming the nuts at both ends of the axle, it is possible to adjust the behaviour of the suspension. On no Ultima fork this arrangement is located at the top of the fork. A similar system exists, but it is located lower on the fork.
On some models of the years 1920, the fork uses a big horizontal spring to make the front suspension. Your fork looks completely different.
So my opinion - I may be wrong - is that you have something interresting, but not Ultima. It could be British. Why not ?

Regards.

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Thanks for looking Leon and everyone. Should a answer appear let me know. Hopefully I can use the forks but will not need the frame part but would like to be able to say where its from :)
        Cheers, Jon

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My thinking is that if the Doherty leaver is original then its a good chance the forks and frame are British :) Did Doherty parts get used on continental bikes back in the 20's / 30's?
      Cheers, Jon

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