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Mystery Machine............
« on: June 26, 2011, 11:10:59 PM »
Hello All.

I recently dug an old bike out of the back of a woolshed that my grandfather used to ride.

She runs a Villiers Mk X11C Long-stroke 148cc 2 stroke engine, Burman HU 4 speed gearbox, Webb pressed steel girder forks and the rims run 3.00 - 19 rubber.

So far the identification numbers I have found are stamped on......

Magneto 4P7 2917 (second two digits could be wrong, hard to read)
Gearbox HU 25154
Frame L 7959

I would appreciate any help in find out exactly what it is.

Regards
Josh
« Last Edit: June 26, 2011, 11:15:27 PM by jloomb@gmail.com »

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Re: Mystery Machine............
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 12:29:02 AM »
Any chance of a pic from the other side.
That engine looks like it is welded in there, seems very high in the frame ??
Looks mid to late 30s, assuming all belong together ?
Not too many makers used a Burman box ?
3.00 - 19 seems like very wide tyres for the time, you'd expect 2.75 -19.

Is there any more of it somewhere ?

jloomb@gmail.com

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Re: Mystery Machine............
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 03:04:51 AM »
I will get some more pics shortly.
agreed on mid to late thirties.
tire is possibly 2.00 - 19, I may not have remembered correctly (will double check)
Motor is bolted in an looks more upright than you would expect within the frame.
Granddad was a mechanic, an thus it is highly possible things may have been altered.
I have not managed to find one single picture of anything with a similar rear subframe setup......
Unfortunately this is all we have managed to find hence trying to identify so as to get a hold of some guards etc.
 
Cheers
Josh

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Re: Mystery Machine............
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 11:31:31 AM »
Could be a 30s Excelsior ?
http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/excelsior-pioneer.jpg

No guarantee your engine is correct/fitted correctly for your bike though.

P.S. Mudguards in this pic appear to be held up by anti-gravity ??