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Griffon G80 (Peugot P108)
cardan:
Peter,
Of interest might be the valve and ignition timing information at the bottom of the 1929 catalogue entry:
Inlet opens 0.5 degrees before top dead centre, closes 13mm after BDC
Exhaust opens 17.2mm before BDC, closes 3.3 degrees after TDC
Ignition: 0mm fully retarded, 8mm BTDC fully advanced
Cheers
Leon
cardan:
Not appreciated, mini-me. I don't see any problem with either of Peter's posts, and I hope he returns to the forum.
Leon
mini-me:
I didn't see any problem with his post either, nor with mine.
what is unclear about....
--- Quote ---No offence intended, just a straight question, as this problem has surfaced on here more than once.
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?
he comes here asking for the benefit of others knowledge ,then throws a paddy when he doesn't like the answer???
I offered help, he doesn't like it. If he is competant to talk on french sites, why is he here?
I have come across a guy exactly like this before on other bike sites, asks a question, does not like the answer he gets, so throws a sulk and thats it.
If this is not the same guy, he's got a twin.
This problem with french bikes is on the up, since the french are unloading their now unuseable bikes [ due to their horrendous difficulty in registering bikes wiithout a carte grise] onto speculative UK antique dealers, who sell them to punters who can't afford prices of even mediocre brit bikes, many of those punters are amazed that they cannot get a manual or spares in this country.
But this guy says he doesn't have that problem? so I baffled, and too old to pussyfoot around shrinking violets who need to grow up.
I'm willing enough to help the snowflakes, I have fair experience with french bikes, owned about 6, dealt in a few more, but damned if I'll change their nappies.
god almighty he can't even spell Peugeot, and ill bet he pronounces it Pew Got
Rex:
I think I know that bloke too...
I was tempted into a Monet Goyon ALS3 1936 some years back. Pretty little thing but amateurish and out-dated by the British bike standards of the time. The French have a different concept of the meaning of "classic bikes" and looking at the standards of the engineering and restoration (as I do every summer) it's easy to become slightly contemptuous of our Gallic cousins and their workmanship.
Then again Adolf's world tour and France's penury in the 1940s/50s/early 1960s meant that everything was used well past it's sell-by, and that shows today with the absolutely spunked piles-o-shite on offer at Kempton etc.
"Oh but they're so French, so Art Deco, so, so, so utterly knackered. Mugs, buy at your peril!
Apart from that, anything in French shouldn't really be a problem as Google Translate works well if a little long-winded.
mini-me:
--- Quote ---I think I know that bloke too...
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I'm sure you do, we both used to post on at least one same forum.
Rex, apart from the mediocre stuff the French were quite innovative in the 1930s, unit construction, big brakes, enclosed heads etc, quite a few four cylinder efforts too.
Their metallurgy let them down in some areas but mostly Govt anti bike legislation suffocated big bikes. I quite like extremes of the art deco style in bikes and cars, which is a matter of taste agreed.
I have a long glossary of technical terms in french-english which I'll be happy to send via PM to anyone that wants a copy, apart from........ :-X.
Having spent quite some time in the company of french vintage clubs, my technical french is better than my normal, so I was told.
France is still a great country for ridng old bikes in,[well, up until a couple years ago that is]
I am staggered at the prices of the total crap on offer at Kempton and so on. One reason you never see a decent vintage bike there is simply because the French are not daft enough to sell off the good stuff.
Old tat bought in by the van load by antique dealers looking to pay their rent.
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