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Any help with ID of this 1900's frame ?
Jonny The Goat:
Hi, got this frame yesterday. Last owner remembers it being in family from at least 50's and he is now mid 80's. Around 20 years ago he looked through library books and thinks he id it as a Werner ? I must admit being such a old bike I had never come across it. Anyway he never had benefit of Internet so just went with that. I looked up a Werner but I am not 100% it is. It looks to have a few slight differences to me. I did find a few other very early bikes it could be like maybe a Peugeot? . Any ideas ? The main cross bar is 1.25" tube and it is quite long at 27" between fittings. It has a 8" space down to lower cross bar and I would think the max dimension of wheel and tyre would be around 27.5". Has belt drive built in kinks in rear left side. Has a number stamped a bit faint in saddle post fitting that looks like 15491. It has been painted with red led but was black under, maybe someone could possibly remove with care if wanted it original. Still looks and feels in very good order for age.
cardan:
Oh very nice. Probably around 1904-1906, but not Werner, Peugeot, or indeed not one of the more common machines. The key identifying feature will be the one-piece lug that forms the rear engine mount and the pedal bracket. It doesn't ring any bells at the moment, but an excellent challenge!
Cheers
Leon
john.k:
Up to about 30 years ago guys used to bring trailer loads of belt drive frames to swapmeets.Never any forks or engines tho.
Jonny The Goat:
Hi Leon and others, I will have a real close check over of the lower main lug to see if i can find any marking maybe filled with paint. It does to me look a quite long frame and as you said I think it looks lovely. So much so that I have it in my living room at home. Much better to look at than the wifes china pots :)
It is though probably not for me as a bit to old, I like post 30's to 60's so will probably move it on though would love to know what it is first. You managed to get to the bottom of the odd set of Newmount / Zundapp forks I have so hopefully you or one of the others can crack this case as well :)
Cheers, Jon
Jonny The Goat:
Hi, I have been over the frame with a magnifying glass :) and can find no other numbers on any part. The only slight clue is that it has the nicest and most unusual grease nipple I have seen. It is nickle plated and has a cover that folds out the way, its held in place with a pin. Have looked at hundreds of grease nipples on Google but have not found one like this. What away to spend a early evening :)
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