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ES2 progress
« on: August 09, 2018, 01:50:51 PM »
It's starting to look much better:







Starting and running well thanks to fitting a 3.5 cutaway rather then the specified 4. Many thanks to Dave for supplying me with this. I suspect the original was for economy rather than performance.

Still a few jobs to get it on the road so I can assess what needs to be done over the winter apart from cosmetics. But so far I'm pleased with progress.
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
1958-ish Tre-Greeves

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2018, 02:09:04 PM »
Wow Ian! That would be the biggest silencer I’ve seen for many a year.

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2018, 02:41:13 PM »
Yes, and even so it's quite loud!
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2018, 08:34:47 PM »
I wouldn't buy that bike...it's clearly got a Kawasaki side-stand.. ;)

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 11:11:20 PM »
Yes, and even so it's quite loud!

I've obtained what seems to be an oem muffler of that type,
with quite complicated looking internals (gazing into it).
I'm keen to get this show on the road, to try it out).

Someone here has had some early dommie mufflers remade with the original type internals replicated,
and the difference is like chalk and cheese.  So is the price though !

btw, I've also obtained the current Enfield quiet type muffler, and its even longer...
(as a discard, so the list price won't cause any fainting spells).


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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 09:47:08 AM »
I wouldn't buy that bike...it's clearly got a Kawasaki side-stand.. ;)

And a red HT lead......

At least there are no gutter bolts involved. ;)
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
1958-ish Tre-Greeves

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2018, 12:57:28 PM »
and it runs on fresh air too, at least I assume it does as there is no  fuel pipe to the carb.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2018, 01:41:38 PM »
That's why it was running so weak!

Actually I've been using a temporary tank with the real one removed while I sort it out. Just put the proper one one to take the photos.
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
1958-ish Tre-Greeves

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2018, 02:13:38 PM »
I've been off greasy2's since I dropped one on my foot 40yrs ago, heavy old lumps.

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Re: ES2 progress - on the road!
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2018, 11:37:40 AM »
Just taken the Norton out for its first road test - about 4 miles on local roads. I was very pleasantly surprised. Loads of power, no coughing or spluttering, slick gear change, rock-steady handling. Brakes pretty poor, clutch dragging a bit but otherwise very happy.

I only took it to 50 (suburban roads) but there was loads left......
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
1958-ish Tre-Greeves

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Re: ES2 progress - on the road!
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 11:52:06 PM »
Brakes pretty poor,

RGM can supply a set of 'high friction linings', which are supposed to help.
I've just organised a set, so we will see...
Grinding/carving/sanding them to a suitable curvature/contact shape may be helpful also. ?

Curious that they only do them in 7" though, I'd have thought they might be usefull in 8" varieties.

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2018, 10:15:26 AM »
The rear linings are new (fitted before I had the bike) but don't look like very high friction items. I will probably get the shoes relined by Villiers Services who do a range of different lining materials.

I'll also fit a front brake lever with 7/8" pivot-to-nipple dimensions to give more leverage (currently 1 1/16").

I did read a negative comment about RGM linings on the NOC forum recently.
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
1958-ish Tre-Greeves

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2018, 11:48:25 AM »
Get yourself to Netley or Beaulieu and find some  Ferodo old stock linings, they'll work much better, even if they are illegal asbestos.

I have a stock of linings for my Matchless, both the pink kind and woven, been buying as I see them. Even the 6inch kind get snapped up by the WD G3L lot as they need all the brakes they can use.

You can even bond your own on  using araldite under pressure and a bit of heat.

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2018, 02:29:30 PM »
I've found both Saftek and Villiers Services do linings which work really well. On the Enfield I had to radius the linings to give the massive 6" front brake every chance of stopping the bike sometime this week though.

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Re: ES2 progress
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2018, 10:09:25 AM »
Has your Enfield got the "floating" brake shoe pivot - the one that's secured to the brake plate by 2 1/4" bolts? You can centralise these by slackening off the bolts, holding the brake on tight then snugging them up again - a bit more sophisticated than the oversize spindle hole on Nortons, Velos etc.

But you probably know this......
Ian
1952 Norton ES2
1986 Honda XBR500
1958-ish Tre-Greeves