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« on: November 10, 2019, 09:51:29 AM »
A (hopefully imminent) house move will see me with greatly enhanced garage space so I am considering extending my "fleet". I've always had a yen for Scotts and nearly bought one about 15 years ago but went for a Venom instead.

I came across this in ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1929-SCOTT-FLYING-SQUIRREL-498cc-TOURER-MATCHING-NUMBERS-VINTAGE-CLASSIC/163920723459 which looks very pretty and is the era I'd be looking at. It seems vastly overpriced to me especially as it's the economy touring model rather than a TT rep. What do people think?

I know the usual advice is to  join the owners' club (which I will probably do) but always respect opinions from the collective wisdom(?) here.
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Re: Scott
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2019, 10:29:34 AM »
Scotts are one in class of one.
I always liked them, but they are very idiosyncratic, you will get to be a expert in chains, half links,quarter links and more.

there are lots about to choose from,that price seems well over the odds there were a few in  the last Bonhams sale.
Buy from the previous owner and learn a lot.

When I were a sprog, 1964, I came across a 1921 Scott  in the back of a dealer in Tooting that had never been sold, covered in rust but not rotten with a seized engine.

So I wrote to the owners club to discuss the price, and as a  the result it was agreed  that 25 was too high a price............... hindsight eh?

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Re: Scott
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2019, 10:48:53 AM »
I've got a 1947 Flying Squirrel and it's an absolute joy to ride. It will be the second last to be sold when anno domini starts taking it's toll.
Like a good racehorse they can be finicky and require regular attention, but there's little to touch it for enjoyment when it's on song. Smooth, powerful, nicely-built and guaranteed to be a conversation starter when you park up.
Never ridden a 1920s model but as I understand it they're much the same regarding maintenance requirements and pleasure of ownership. The earlier bikes are two speed and the later ones three speed, and some consider that to be a drawback when riding.
The SOC is a good club (for spares and info) but it doesn't seem to be the place to buy one as they seem to be rarely advertised. I would suggest CarandClassic or good old Ebay might be better.

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Re: Scott
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2019, 10:52:59 AM »
Thanks Rex.

Actually, following MiniMe I looked at Bonhams and guess what? That very bike sold in October for 8,625 including premium. Talk about a mark-up!
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Re: Scott
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2019, 01:55:22 PM »
I thought it was familiar, several of the bikes sold have popped up very quickly on ebay, . Seems its dealers pushing the auction prices up.

As an ex-dealer,  I feel such high markups are not good, I only ever worked ona 10% margin and quick turn round.

Maybe they will get burnt fingers, there are bikes on offer on ebay at very silly prices proving that the seller is very very  hopeful and in pig ignorance of what he is selling;
Levis for one example.

too many effing amateurs in the game now.

On the other hand, you know what he paid for it, haggle.

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Re: Scott
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2019, 01:59:13 PM »
Yes indeed. I would go to 10,000 as an absolute max which gives him a good 1,000. But I'll probably let it lie for the moment.

Following Rex's point, it may be that a later model would suit me better but very early days and I may yet be put off by the challenge!

In the same Bonhams sale there was a later 600cc bike for 6,900 which seems even more realistic. https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25384/lot/327/
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Re: Scott
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2019, 03:46:48 PM »
As the blurb says, it's a much later alternator engine fitted to that bike, and the wheel rims (front looks to alloy, rear chrome) don't match, which is not something I'd expect for the thick end of 7 grand.
It could be a good bike (personally I like girders) but it could also be something toshed up for resale. I'd want a good look first before I bid.

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Re: Scott
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2019, 04:28:28 PM »
Drop that on the nearside it will be very expensive.

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Re: Scott
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 09:16:49 PM »
My take on the old bike scene now is that I see very ,very few bikes offered for sale by bona fide owner/riders and a multitude of dealers with showrooms? crammed with dozens of classic bikes at very high prices.Typically twice what i would think realistic......Now I know the place is awash with drug money ,which is often spent on classic bikes,but enough to sustain the market?.......and I see the hate for for IC vehicles gaining momentum quite rapidly.