Author Topic: Searching front wheel and fork for lightweight motorcycle from 1920's  (Read 215 times)

Offline Ralf89

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Hello,
I am looking for a front wheel and a girder fork for a lightweight motorcycle from 1925. It is an austrian motorcycle brand, but almost all parts are british.
The front wheel should fit for 26x2 beaded edge tyre (or maybe 26x2,25), so the circumference of the beaded edge rim should be aprox. 172 cm (inner section) and the inner width of the rim aprox 3,5cm. Furthermore the front wheel should have a drum brake and 40 spokes.
The girder fork which I am also looking for, is maybe a brampton fork, but I am not sure.
Please take a look on the photo, I think the experts here can identifier my wanted parts.
If anybody have such a front wheel or grider fork, or only parts of it and would sell it, would make make very happy.
Many thanks in advance
kind regards
Ralf (and sorry for my bad english)

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Re: Searching front wheel and fork for lightweight motorcycle from 1920's
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 05:17:07 AM »
Hi Ralf,

That's a pretty little bike.

The forks are "Druid pattern" - that is they use the Druid patent with a side spring on either side and links top and bottom. By the mid 1920s most were built under license by people other than Drew. I've not seen forks with the same design as these on a British bike, so I wonder if these were built by DSH, or perhaps another European maker. You will find similar lightweight Druid forks, but not exactly the same shape or tube diameters.

Re the front wheel, there were a number of British manufacturers making small (maybe 4" - 10cm) drum brakes for lightweights. British Hub Co made the Motobrake (attached), but there would be similar things from Horton, Chater Lea, and others. I think you'll find most lightweight front wheels were 36 spoke - like the one in your photo!

I don't think the bike would be spoiled if you fitted slightly-non-standard forks and front hub if you can't find the exact items.

Good luck!

Leon

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Re: Searching front wheel and fork for lightweight motorcycle from 1920's
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 06:22:46 AM »
I don't think the bike would be spoiled if you fitted slightly-non-standard forks and front hub if you can't find the exact items.

I'd comment that I fitted a front wheel off I think a Honda XL175 to something similar.
It uses a (modern) 21" front trials type tyre of the drop centre type,
the axle required a little machining to make it fit, and a brake anchor.
A coat of black, and you can barely spot the difference.
Until the correct wheel comes along....

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Re: Searching front wheel and fork for lightweight motorcycle from 1920's
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2020, 06:22:24 PM »
...Or there's always the ubiquitous Bantam front hub?

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Re: Searching front wheel and fork for lightweight motorcycle from 1920's
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2020, 06:23:28 PM »
Good evening everyone!

Many many thanks for your answers! Thats a great forum!
The reason, why I am looking for a 40 spokes wheel is because the existing rear wheel also has 40 spokes.
But you are right, on the photo from my first post are only 36 spokes. Maybe my rear wheel is wrong or the DSH was produced in both variants.
And you are all absolutely right, better a front wheel wi´hich is not 100% correct, then no front wheel  ;D
Thank you for the hint with the hub manufacture, thats very useful!

Re the girder fork, I think you are right, maybe the frok was selfmade by DSH under licence from Druid.
Attached you can find a photo of such a DSH with the fork.

Many thanks to all!

Regards

Ralf

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Re: Searching front wheel and fork for lightweight motorcycle from 1920's
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2020, 11:51:25 PM »
Hi Ralf,

I don't know why, but 36 front/40 rear is pretty normal on British cycles and motorcycles. A few of the lightweights - and BSA - used 32 spokes at the front, but 40 spokes at the front is pretty rare in the vintage years.

In their advertising, the British Hub Co. claimed to be the biggest manufacturer of hubs in the British Empire, and made a big deal of their exports, so their products were used in bikes around the world.

Cheers

Leon