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Motorcycle Discussions => British Bikes => Topic started by: mf-zh on February 01, 2013, 10:36:27 AM

Title: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: mf-zh on February 01, 2013, 10:36:27 AM
I bought a BSA Goldstar from Kim Pedersen.
The frame and motor numbers where from a 57 Goldstar.
Because I live 1200km away from the bike, I trust Kim Pedersen.
When I received the bike I discovered, that the Frame was probably from a B31 and the Crankcase from a B33.
It is a fraud. Somebody punched in the Goldstar numbers in to the wrong type of Frame and Crankcase!

I wanted to give back the bike, Kim Pedersen first agreed. But now he refuses!
So I have to sell the bike at a big loss because it is a replica!

He has other motorcycles. Maybe we wants to sell them. So watch out!

Mike
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: Rex on February 01, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
And the sad moral of the tale is, don't buy an expensive old bike without seeing it first.
Is he a dealer?
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: mf-zh on February 01, 2013, 01:40:48 PM
No he isn't. Privat person.
I could be fun to visit him with a few friends.
Drink some beer in his garden and wait for him to come home from work.
he he he
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: wetdog on February 01, 2013, 01:57:19 PM
what do you now value the bike at ?
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: mf-zh on February 01, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
I haven't given that any thought yet...
I am open to any proposals if anybody is interessted.
The Bike is in Switzerland....

Mike
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: wetdog on February 01, 2013, 03:33:23 PM
send some pics thanks ............ dont slag people off
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: johnnyboy-wonder57 on February 01, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
umm!
I have friends in Denmark, I always speak to them on Saturday, I will ask if anyone has heard of this guy, news of dodgy deals usually travel fast.

I think you may have Legal rights, if the bike doesn't match the description, also the stamping proves fraudulent activity at some point, what was written in the advert & where was it advertised?

Cheers

JBW
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: ulrik.f on February 18, 2013, 06:18:22 PM
I know the seller in Denmark, and I guarantee you, he is a honest man. I have also bought a bike from him, and everything was perfect. Your bike was sold from Ebay and I know for sure that the frame number and the engine number was described in the advert. And furthermore there was  Pictures showing the frame number asewell as the engine number. So the buyer (you) had any opportunity to check what you were buying.

If you feel cheated, perhaps you havenīt done your "homework" well enough...................

Best regards

Ulrik
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: wetdog on February 18, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
"send some pics thanks " ................ he may have bought what he says is a nail (one sided so take a pinch of salt) but he does not want to part with it . id have to say bought and had secound thoughts
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: mf-zh on February 21, 2013, 06:48:49 AM
Quote from: ulrik.f on February 18, 2013, 06:18:22 PM
I know the seller in Denmark, and I guarantee you, he is a honest man. I have also bought a bike from him, and everything was perfect. Your bike was sold from Ebay and I know for sure that the frame number and the engine number was described in the advert. And furthermore there was  Pictures showing the frame number asewell as the engine number. So the buyer (you) had any opportunity to check what you were buying.

If you feel cheated, perhaps you havenīt done your "homework" well enough...................

Best regards

Ulrik



Hi Ulrik

 He sold the Bike in the add as a Goldstar, but it is a Fake! The numbers are very well from a Goldstar, but the Frame and Motor are not! On the pictures it was not visible. When i confronted him with this, he was not surprised... Now he does not react any more. He shut down his mobile phone. Is that the way a" honest man" acts? Cheating fellow-motorcyclist?

Kind regards

Mike
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: mf-zh on February 21, 2013, 06:52:16 AM
Quote from: wetdog on February 18, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
"send some pics thanks " ................ he may have bought what he says is a nail (one sided so take a pinch of salt) but he does not want to part with it . id have to say bought and had secound thoughts

I send you a message to contact me outside of this forum. Did you get it?

Mike
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: wink on February 21, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Perhaps he bought it and found out it was a fake and sold it on.

Wetdog may be from a generation when people were honest, he has knocked me back before for telling tales.
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: Rex on February 22, 2013, 10:53:25 AM
Then again, as both buyer and seller are apparently unknown to "us" then any sort of valid judgement is impossible to make. "I know the seller, he's an honest man..." email doesn't really hack it, as the seller's mate could have sent it..
As in every B31-Goldie, TR5-5T type scenario, there really is no substitute for visually checking and rechecking if you're hoping to buy the genuine article.
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: wetdog on February 22, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
how true and why is this post still up .............. what if i start a post David cameron is a %^& .... .....
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: Bomber on February 22, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
I'm afraid I would have to support your prospective new post  :)
Title: Re: Kim Pedersen Denmark ATTENTION
Post by: wink on February 23, 2013, 10:00:17 AM
I can see this post is going the same way as all the others. David Cameron canīt help it, Tony Blair could.
If the country had been run by Enoch Powell and Tony Benn would it be any different now?Are you old enough to remember the 60s when Barbara Castle doubled the price of fuel overnight and put learners on 250s?