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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 07, 2013, 02:29:32 AM »I love the problems old bikes throw at you and the learning curve of making them good again.
So do I and I am slowly learning.
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So do I and I am slowly learning.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 06, 2013, 09:21:56 PM »
What ever floats your boat I have always said.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 06, 2013, 09:07:40 PM »none , im building it myself inc the engine , i invested in some tools many years ago
Hate to be you if it scrams itself huh but then again better you than me.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 06, 2013, 04:29:06 PM »" My father took 4 days to build a preunit Triumph but they very rarely broke" ................ that's faster than me , ive been building a thunderbird for about 10 years and its still far from finished
Wonder what kind of guarantee comes with that?
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 06, 2013, 03:42:55 PM »Wetdog, is he perhaps getting cheesed off because another summerīs gone and heīs still not got it back, Iīm glad I didnīt get involved with this one. My father took 4 days to build a preunit Triumph but they very rarely broke.
I've been in the wind all Summer long on the Wife Unit's 250cc scoot. It is not what you ride but that you ride. Mine is more like fine wine and just keeps getting better the longer it ferments in the shop. Mad? Not even. This sweet ride is completely worth the wait.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 06, 2013, 02:54:44 AM »
It bis not what you ride but that you ride. My other bike is my Wife's 250cc ZhongChen Scooter w/auto trans she is learning on before we upgrade her to a Honda 300cc Series Scooter being she only weights in at 120lbs with full gear on. It should fly like a 600 Ninja under her. Might have to put Velcro and a seat belt for her too. 
You seem more worried about the guarantee than I am and it is NOT even your bike ROLMFAO. Go have a Pint or ten or a Xanax.
You seem more worried about the guarantee than I am and it is NOT even your bike ROLMFAO. Go have a Pint or ten or a Xanax.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 05, 2013, 11:56:08 PM »
You build yours and I will build mine deal? I'm not going to sit here and argue with ya. I tend to stand behind and up for those I have work on my bike and I really DO NOT have any respect for those talking ANY kind of smack talk about them especially those over seas. Heard this same stuff for far to many years and all my life F.T.S.
I come to forums like this not for the old timers on the scene who think they know it all but for the new up and comers. If I had a decent garage/shop with a "clean area", ALL the tools and equipment required like Welders, Drill Press, Grinders and other tools of the trade I would be doing a lot of my own but since I don't I entrust that work to professionals who do. Money means NOTHING on this build to me. The bike is NOT for sale anyway.
After I am done with this ride in the respective build shops I use rebuilding from rear spoke nipple to front spoke nipple and EVERYTHING in between I will have a damn fine fresh ride and I will know exactly what it will do and wont do and it will be far better than buying somebody elses P.O.S. with it's headaches and nightmarish junk.
Hell I'm building a brand new bike from the frame up and in the process preserving a fine vintage 1965 T120R 650cc Unit that might have ended up in a scrap shredder which is where a lot of them are these days. Shredded and shipped over to China for scrap. F@#kThatStuff.
Now run along and go have a nice Pint on me at your local pub and do not worry yourself much about what this ole Yank across The Pond is building for himself. Rest assured this ole vintage Triumph Unit is going to be so sweet and will be returned to the wind to retake her proper place along side others of her kind as a daily rider and be very well cared for.
Until the next update if I post one after this round of B.S. Peace.
**Oh and Dear Admins and Mods if I have offended anybody with this post my apologies but sometimes an old Biker just has to set the record straight when others are talking the smack they really have absolutely no clue WTH the whole situation is. It takes a village rings very true in this point.
I come to forums like this not for the old timers on the scene who think they know it all but for the new up and comers. If I had a decent garage/shop with a "clean area", ALL the tools and equipment required like Welders, Drill Press, Grinders and other tools of the trade I would be doing a lot of my own but since I don't I entrust that work to professionals who do. Money means NOTHING on this build to me. The bike is NOT for sale anyway.
After I am done with this ride in the respective build shops I use rebuilding from rear spoke nipple to front spoke nipple and EVERYTHING in between I will have a damn fine fresh ride and I will know exactly what it will do and wont do and it will be far better than buying somebody elses P.O.S. with it's headaches and nightmarish junk.
Hell I'm building a brand new bike from the frame up and in the process preserving a fine vintage 1965 T120R 650cc Unit that might have ended up in a scrap shredder which is where a lot of them are these days. Shredded and shipped over to China for scrap. F@#kThatStuff.
Now run along and go have a nice Pint on me at your local pub and do not worry yourself much about what this ole Yank across The Pond is building for himself. Rest assured this ole vintage Triumph Unit is going to be so sweet and will be returned to the wind to retake her proper place along side others of her kind as a daily rider and be very well cared for.
Until the next update if I post one after this round of B.S. Peace.
**Oh and Dear Admins and Mods if I have offended anybody with this post my apologies but sometimes an old Biker just has to set the record straight when others are talking the smack they really have absolutely no clue WTH the whole situation is. It takes a village rings very true in this point.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 05, 2013, 08:56:57 PM »
He has not told me that as the Engine is still in pieces. He said he will call me or I will call him or my Wife Unit and I will take a leisurely drive to go see him. I'm sure it will be a more than fair guarantee. We have some real fine old school Engine Builders all over the states. They just do not advertise heavily and let word of mouth from their customers do the talking. Peace.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 05, 2013, 08:38:44 PM »
No points. Boyer Ignition 
Tossed the points plate into the spares box.
Tossed the points plate into the spares box.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 05, 2013, 04:51:48 PM »
Well this is a 1965 T120R 40ci 650cc dual carbs unit(well 675cc now) and built like a brick is solid. I'll take it over a HD Engine of the same year any day. Oh and it does not leak any oil either. Cases tight as can be. Will be even better once rebuilt.
He specializes in Brit Bikes and has customers that come up to his shop from all over the San Joaquin Valley area for service and more. I have seen some very lovely pre 1969 BSA's, Norton's and Triumph's in his shop since going there these past two months. It is only like 30 miles from my house too. All others are 50 miles or more away.
My entire Rigid Bobber is sitting on his roll on motorcycle lift so he has EVERYTHING right there to tear down, rebuild it, reinstall back into the chassis(yes it ran when I took it into him and very strong at that for a tired improperly rebuilt Unit) and he told me the entire processes of pre torque on assembly, warm up, cool down, re-torque and he said this is a three times over process with one short ride and then one long ride before final re-torque and ready to go home. That is how he says he does all re builds he does and can offer a guarantee on his work. Gotta love the old school builders.
Same with the entire Clutch Basket in ensuring that everything inside is done and settled in properly. That is why I decided to go with brand new AMAL's too is because the old AMAL Barrels Body's used t warp from the heat. The new AMAL's are manufactured from better materials, Chrome Slides and by all the reviews and talking to others they stay in tune far longer than expected.
The Engine Builder also builds Race Engines for Dirt Bikes for a lot of the local dirt track folks.
He specializes in Brit Bikes and has customers that come up to his shop from all over the San Joaquin Valley area for service and more. I have seen some very lovely pre 1969 BSA's, Norton's and Triumph's in his shop since going there these past two months. It is only like 30 miles from my house too. All others are 50 miles or more away.
My entire Rigid Bobber is sitting on his roll on motorcycle lift so he has EVERYTHING right there to tear down, rebuild it, reinstall back into the chassis(yes it ran when I took it into him and very strong at that for a tired improperly rebuilt Unit) and he told me the entire processes of pre torque on assembly, warm up, cool down, re-torque and he said this is a three times over process with one short ride and then one long ride before final re-torque and ready to go home. That is how he says he does all re builds he does and can offer a guarantee on his work. Gotta love the old school builders.
Same with the entire Clutch Basket in ensuring that everything inside is done and settled in properly. That is why I decided to go with brand new AMAL's too is because the old AMAL Barrels Body's used t warp from the heat. The new AMAL's are manufactured from better materials, Chrome Slides and by all the reviews and talking to others they stay in tune far longer than expected.
The Engine Builder also builds Race Engines for Dirt Bikes for a lot of the local dirt track folks.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 05, 2013, 01:59:44 PM »
Cost does not matter is the bike will never be fore sale and I do not have the proper machinery nor the clean room to assemble it all again properly.
That is the huge difference between a Professionally Rebuilt Unit and a Garage Rebuilt Unit. The Professional has ALL of the tools and Clean Room to do the job correctly. The Garage Rebuilder just relies on what is around him. Besides I get a nice GUARANTEE with the Professional Rebuild unlike if I did it myself. Costs? Being the bike is NOT for sale I have roughly $5.5k into it to get it to this point. Another $1.5k max will go into the Engine Unit and another $1.5k plus or minus into the final on the entire chassis. Ya she going to make me a very fine daily rider.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gdLslVRscvg/UdoRLjwabUI/AAAAAAAAA64/ODEfcloLS18/s1600/100_0662.JPG
That is the huge difference between a Professionally Rebuilt Unit and a Garage Rebuilt Unit. The Professional has ALL of the tools and Clean Room to do the job correctly. The Garage Rebuilder just relies on what is around him. Besides I get a nice GUARANTEE with the Professional Rebuild unlike if I did it myself. Costs? Being the bike is NOT for sale I have roughly $5.5k into it to get it to this point. Another $1.5k max will go into the Engine Unit and another $1.5k plus or minus into the final on the entire chassis. Ya she going to make me a very fine daily rider.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gdLslVRscvg/UdoRLjwabUI/AAAAAAAAA64/ODEfcloLS18/s1600/100_0662.JPG
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: September 05, 2013, 01:22:10 AM »
The Engine Shop
Well the news is we are in the Engine Shop for a complete rebuild. That is the best way to make sure this T120R Unit is going to be as solid as it can be.
Engine Top End has been tore down and there are some issues with the Head and the Jugs but the Mechanic assured me that they can all potentially be fixed and made right.
The other issue was the Bottom End is one of the Connecting Rods was to tight onto the Crank Journal so we decided we are into it this far we might as well just go all the way into it and pull the Crank, check EVERYTHING inside and do the job correctly.
This includes a brand new set of AMAL Concentrics as well.
So what I will have when all is said and done is a brand new and fresh professionally built T120R Unit I know I can rely on.
Oh I forgot to mention it has been bored out .80 over. The Engine Builder said we might have to take the Cylinders out just a tiny bit more but he assured me there is plenty to work with.
I think he is like a kid in a candy store getting to work on my bike. The man is very cool and very straight forward.
Until the next update. Keep the rubber to the road, please respect all who ride and MLH&R.
Well the news is we are in the Engine Shop for a complete rebuild. That is the best way to make sure this T120R Unit is going to be as solid as it can be.
Engine Top End has been tore down and there are some issues with the Head and the Jugs but the Mechanic assured me that they can all potentially be fixed and made right.
The other issue was the Bottom End is one of the Connecting Rods was to tight onto the Crank Journal so we decided we are into it this far we might as well just go all the way into it and pull the Crank, check EVERYTHING inside and do the job correctly.
This includes a brand new set of AMAL Concentrics as well.
So what I will have when all is said and done is a brand new and fresh professionally built T120R Unit I know I can rely on.
Oh I forgot to mention it has been bored out .80 over. The Engine Builder said we might have to take the Cylinders out just a tiny bit more but he assured me there is plenty to work with.
I think he is like a kid in a candy store getting to work on my bike. The man is very cool and very straight forward.
Until the next update. Keep the rubber to the road, please respect all who ride and MLH&R.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: July 11, 2013, 02:50:27 PM »
You know bring all forces home is not going to happen because it is all over money.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: July 11, 2013, 01:23:19 PM »
Over on this side of The Pond once my ride is all legal with a Plate on her and the engine work done and the other little things I can get back into going to the Patriot Guard Rider Missions, back into the Toy Runs, Veterans Home Runs and the like. It is all about Respect.
Not dogging anybody for what they do but it takes a big hearted person on that motorcycle to humble themselves in their heart to take the short amount of time to make a smile come to the face of a small child, a Vet who's family might have abandoned them in a Vet's Home or to stand in a Flag Line or do escort service for a fallen soldier or a soldier from wars long ago who has finally passed on.
To each their own. Ride safe, keep the rubber to the road, MLH&R but always remember this. That child you take a toy to could be the friend of your own child, that Vet might have served with your Dad or Grandfather, that soldier you escort to their final resting place voluntarily gave up their life so you can have yours today.
No greater love hath a man than he should lay down his own life for his friends. Peace.
Not dogging anybody for what they do but it takes a big hearted person on that motorcycle to humble themselves in their heart to take the short amount of time to make a smile come to the face of a small child, a Vet who's family might have abandoned them in a Vet's Home or to stand in a Flag Line or do escort service for a fallen soldier or a soldier from wars long ago who has finally passed on.
To each their own. Ride safe, keep the rubber to the road, MLH&R but always remember this. That child you take a toy to could be the friend of your own child, that Vet might have served with your Dad or Grandfather, that soldier you escort to their final resting place voluntarily gave up their life so you can have yours today.
No greater love hath a man than he should lay down his own life for his friends. Peace.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: 1965 T120R Project Build
« on: July 10, 2013, 11:44:58 PM »I'm afraid none of the above floats my boat and would never be seen at any of them. I presume the ocean between us is as big as the cultural differences.
Apparently so.