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British Bikes / Re: Spanners and sockets
« on: January 20, 2021, 04:33:26 PM »
thats because they were cheap skates, always on the verge of bankruptcy, I'm not a Velofan, never have been, worked on LE Velos for met police though and they were nearly all 1/4 BSF.

There is a reason for the use of 26tpi cycle and that is because fine threads are less inclined to vibrate loose.

It is rumoured that spanner size is irrelevant to Velo owners as they use the famous hammertite mole grips, one size fits all. ;D ;D ;D

mostly I used a gas axe  on the ones I scrapped.

But if you built the bike right in the first place, then arguably there is no need for BSC threads to keep other poorly designed, shaking contraptions from falling apart?  I tend to believe Veloce designed it pretty much right in the first place, and used the appropriate fasteners.   

British Bikes / Re: Spanners and sockets
« on: January 20, 2021, 01:21:32 PM »
Is Oggers confusing thread from with head size?

No he's not.

BSW=BSF (head size) - understood
BSW does not equal BSF (thread) - also understood

Question answered by Ian - Velos use more BSF than others - many thanks

British Bikes / Re: T 100 68 oil pressure gauge ?
« on: January 20, 2021, 10:50:39 AM »
Yes no problem. I'll give some detail once I have waded through the snow to get to the shed!

British Bikes / Re: Spanners and sockets
« on: January 20, 2021, 10:49:10 AM »
As a rough guide for bolt size I use my AF spanners as calipers and use a few known BSF screws/bolts of the common sizes to compare and contrast in order to ascertain if it is BSW or something else.

British Bikes / Re: T 100 68 oil pressure gauge ?
« on: January 19, 2021, 08:09:56 PM »
I have a small one on the 66 T120. The point for me is that it indicates an oil problem on start very quickly so I may be able to kill the engine in time and not wreck it. Otherwise, when running it does a similar function if I believe something does not feel or sound right with the bike. On a bike worth a few bob, I cannot see any harm in having something which may prevent a very large bill. 

British Bikes / Re: Spanners and sockets
« on: January 19, 2021, 07:51:40 PM »
I am allowed another question surely? I understood that in general, BSF was used on most stuff....

British Bikes / Re: Spanners and sockets
« on: January 19, 2021, 03:54:23 PM »
Understood ref the hex heads, but what about the thread? What is generally used on a Velo - BSW,BSF or BSC? or all 3!

British Bikes / Spanners and sockets
« on: January 17, 2021, 04:51:13 PM »

I have always assumed that a Whitworth spanner and socket set are the default for most British bikes, but I read somewhere Velocettes are different - not sure where or why this should be the case.

Can you advise - as I may be about to buy one - a 54 MSS.

My thanks and regards


British Bikes / Re: Velocette 1956 MSS
« on: November 06, 2020, 10:54:21 AM »

There is some truth in that. I also quite like the Ariel VH500 which can be bought for far less. Nothing much you can do though about prices. Supply and demand basically, and whether demand is justified or not is another matter.

British Bikes / Re: Velocette 1956 MSS
« on: November 03, 2020, 10:45:26 AM »
Thanks for the replies folks. I have an Ariel VB600 so used to starting  - or not - big singles. I appreciate the technique varies from bike to bike though. Points noted about the clutch etc. I am assured all is well, but they all say that. It has a Venom piston and cam, a monobloc carb to suit - everything else is allegedly original. Frankly, I just like the noise they make, the low down torque and the relative simplicity of a single, but yes, well aware of the added "features" Not sure if they are good or bad news.   

British Bikes / Re: Velocette 1956 MSS
« on: November 02, 2020, 04:35:02 PM »
Eccentric meaning different to normal. I also did not say it was a bad thing.

British Bikes / Velocette 1956 MSS
« on: November 02, 2020, 04:12:32 PM »

I have half an eye on an MSS. Looks to be a nice single, though being a Velo somewhat eccentric. Thoughts welcome as to riding and maintaining it. Condition is above average, allegedly decent mechanically, some cosmetic work to do.

Many thanks


anyone who owns a Porsche deserves all they get.

Well I wouldn't say no to one for sure.

I disagree. A pressed steel chaincase is an inherently poor design. It is akin to a Porsche 911 - any engine should never hang over the rear wheels for obvious well-founded reasons. For sure Porsche eventually solved the issue  - about 25 years later, and by spending gazillions stubbornly making a silk purse out of sow's ear. Same with a pressed steel chaincase. Yes they can be made oil tight, but only after time and effort, and if they are in any way put out of shape, the problem is magnified immensely. Far better to design it right in the first place - engine mid-mounted or up front, and a cast/forged chaincase.   

British Bikes / Re: Twin Leading Shoe problem
« on: October 12, 2020, 10:50:43 PM »
I do think at some point that I would disassemble the Bonnie to engine and frame, then rebuild as I see fit, though I am not pursuaded the engine and box require attention given the huge rebuild file written by the builder. I am not doing it just yet. I want to actually ride the thing, and to be fair to the PO, the rest of the bike seems - at this point anyways - in reasonable mechanical order.

I too enjoy restoring, but I have a limit. Chrome, rims, exhaust which are a pile of rust is an instant turn off - mainly due to the cost of restoring/replacing them - as is any major issue with the engine or box. Not that much difference price-wise these days between something that requires a huge amount of work and something that is half decent needing only a modest amount of remedial work.   


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