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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: February 08, 2013, 11:17:22 PM »
  A  proper well thought out, Flat-Tracker/Desert Crosser, would have made more sense to be marketed in the States in the USA that had more sun, than rain!

There was the Atlas (750cc) Scrambler model in the early 1960s.
Whether it was well thought out or not. ?
Take a strong man to tame that in full cry....

And the later series of Norton N15CS's, Rangers, P11, P11A.
(and the 1950s Nomad models).
So someone was thinking of these things back then.

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: February 07, 2013, 08:34:41 AM »
No -  the Manxman was only ever a 650cc, in blue with small tank, high handlebars and orange/red seat.
It was about the first to get chrome guards - mostly for the US market of course.

All featherbed dommies look somewhat the same at first glance - without knowing the engine numbers its tough to tell them apart.
Apart from slimline or wideline frames and various features over the years.
Or counting fins....

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: February 06, 2013, 11:34:50 PM »
Lockable throttle is most definitely an accessory fitting.
Two-tone painted tanks and chromed mudguards don't go together, when you look at the brochure pics from back then.

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: February 05, 2013, 11:20:10 PM »
Can any body tell me if Norton produced the Dominators with chrome guards and primary cover as standard around 1961? I have noticed chrome under the paint on this one, by the way I have purchased it!

Congratulations !

Export and home market bikes can vary, considerably, in the finish. Chrome bits were becoming quite common even in the early 60s.
The NOC can possibly look it up in the factory records and advise - but of course previous owners could have done anything with it in the past 40 years.  Depending on where it was delivered to new, some Dealers also added to the bling in the showroom...

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British Bikes / Re: Sparkplugs
« on: February 04, 2013, 11:24:04 PM »
What brand and grade of plugs are you using ?
If its burning oil, and/or running lean or rich, its not the plugs fault !?

Fuel varies somewhat these days too, tried a different supplier or brand....

What do you call 'burned out' in a plug.
Can they be cleaned so they are good to go again ?

Some boyers are very sensitive to battery voltage, your battery and charging system are good ?

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British Bikes / Re: 1930's James?
« on: January 31, 2013, 12:43:57 AM »
It looks like its going to be a postwar James ML model, a 125cc. ?

http://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/james/images/James_1947_ML_125cc_in_The_Motor_Cycle.jpg

Not very much of it there or useable really, is there !
For something that was an economy lightweight model, with very limited road riding ability these days, you sure you want to continue with this - they are not very expensive to find complete and running.

And the one you have there looks to have other problems - the frame downtube (under the seat) looks to be gone, completely !!, and someone has added those two plain steel straps to replace it. So its missing the rear engine mounting.

You will have a lot of work finding all the missing bits, and be quite expensive to do this way. And, sorry to suggest this, but it would make good spares for someone looking for forks, or wheels.

HopethisHelps.

P.S. There were also quite a lot of these made in wartime. e.g.
http://miliblog.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/british-ww2-preserved-motorcycles/james-ml-military-lightweight-125cc-1943re-9889.jpg
Its possible yours has been civilianised - although shows no sign of this (for whats left, anyway).

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British Bikes / Re: Best ever British Bike Conglomeration
« on: January 29, 2013, 11:50:55 PM »
Your going to build the perfect bike, for £6,500 ??!!
Give us a break.
That wouldn't even pay for paint on some of these fancy creations.

Howse about a 16h Norton, with a fresh coat of green-ish housepaint, and a fuelcard.

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 28, 2013, 07:04:05 AM »
Slimline Nortons in the early 1960s had a choice of a number of colors in the brochures - black and what is described as "dove grey" but is really a pale cream color, and red and dove grey, green and dove grey and blue and dove grey. While in theory each of these color choices were limited to a few specific models, apparently the factory would paint any bike any color if requested - and you could wait. Bit tricky with export bikes, of course.  Didn't take long before silver tanks and chromed guards came along, along with other chromed bits.

By the time it got into the Commando era, quite a range of colors was available, including some big chunky metalflake options.

Those 'Norton' slimline tank badges can be hard to find - they are chomed diecast (zinc), and tend to deteriorate and crumble with age.
Decals make a fair substitute until you find a good set, if you didn't get any ?

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:45:30 AM »
R,
Extract from article! If they are wrong, put them right, otherwise incorrect information, just keeps circulating round


Very few options to correct errors in published articles.
Since errors are almost inevitable unless proofread properly.

Norton buyers must have been loyal buyers at those prices. And weights !
Model 7 (plunger frame version) was 440 lbs+ fully fuelled and oiled.

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:37:40 AM »
Everything is available for Nortons, new or used.
Cylinders may require sleeving if they are too far worn though.
Is there more than 1 bike here, seems to have 2 tanks and things. ?

Numbers seem to indicate  a 1962 Model 88, 500cc, a slimline - although pics don't show much frame detail.
Don't show the cylinderhead detail either, if this is an 88SS then a rolling chassis already = $2000 is looking rediculously low...

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 26, 2013, 11:45:27 PM »
Actually, the "Dominator Deluxe" name distinguished it from the new swingarm frame ( with the single downtube) , since the gardengate (plunger rear suspension) frame had just been retired into history.  But we won't quibble over names and ancient history...

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 24, 2013, 11:36:28 PM »
You need to take a careful note of the engine numbers, and compare to that list - for year and model.
Also the frame number, on featherbeds stamped vertically near your left foot.

122 is the prefix code for a Model 88, could be from 1951 to somewhere in the mid 1960s.
Wouldn't be the first time seller thought it was a 54 wideline, and turned out to be a 68 Atlas.
Or something somewhere in  between... !!

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 24, 2013, 02:47:19 AM »
Before you do anything irredeemable with the rusty chrome, just try polishing it up gently with well-worn stainless steel wool - well worn so it has no sharp edges, and thus will not scratch. A wipeover with panel-beaters phosphoric acid (rust remover) and amazing what can be done.
Not if its deeply pitted with rust, though.

Of course, you have to own it first...

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British Bikes / Re: 1957 model 88 basket case value?
« on: January 23, 2013, 10:11:39 AM »
Unless its all utterly worn out, been stored underwater, or is is a POS, $2000 for any featherbed Norton is an absolute bargain.
If its all there - electrics, carbs, seat, guards, headlamp, handlebars and levers, tank and oiltank and battery box etc then even more so.

What has been chromed ?  The tank is the really expensive bit here - you often see them painted, for precisely that reason.

Good Luck !

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Nice bike.
Are you in Quetta - good motorcycling territory.
The BSA would certainly be different  ?

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