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British Bikes / Re: 1920s cone hubs
« on: October 21, 2018, 05:27:41 PM »
Its a pain getting those cones just right and keeping them so without the lock nuts. Cycles are dead Easy but sadly the axles don't match.
Better find some nuts I reckon as there is room. Who is a good supplier of , I guess, cycle thread nuts?

British Bikes / 1920s cone hubs
« on: October 19, 2018, 09:09:42 PM »
My project bike, a 1922 Watney, has cycle type cup and cone hubs.  I have never seen a cycle without locknuts but these seem not to have such things. The rear might just have them missing but the front most definitely just stays locked by doing up the wheel nuts in the fork.  Anyone reckon I should be looking for rear locknuts? I do need spacers on the rear axle so there is room for lock nuts.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:48:37 AM »
Going to try a 4x on one side and see if that helps. It doesn't take long to build a wheel. I have found this so much easier than cycle wheels. The rim is no more straight than cycle one, i.e. nearly but it seems to be less liable to do things you don't want when you nudge it over a touch in one place. At least the rim is meant to be central with the hub so no dish to mess with.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: June 12, 2018, 07:29:33 AM »
Slowly doing bits. Rebuilding the rear wheel which is technically easy but it was in bits when we got it. Using old spokes to copy and get lengths but one sides worth are too long if built 3 cross. Not sure on the other side as I haven't got the dish right yet of course. 
Would 4 cross be likely on a 40 hole rim of this era?  The front is 36 and 3 cross.
Different spoking patterns for each side  seems unlikely although in cycles it not unknown.

Wanted Bikes / Enfield trials or something close
« on: March 13, 2017, 07:57:37 AM »
Probably ideally a modern Enfield (the electric start version) with some form of trials type conversion. Doesn't need to be competitive as its for dead easy green laning/commuting.
Might consider something of this nature but another UK manufacturer. Old is fine.
email mattsccm AT famail DOT net as I forget to login here very often.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: December 29, 2016, 08:58:03 PM »
Yeah, tis Westwood. Sadly no rim there so its time to get the hub in the frame to eye things up. Have got 25 spokes to help matters a bit. Ta for tip about rim size. Got a Dunlop tyre that came to us in the waxed paper wrapping as in the pic so need one plus rim and tubes plus spokes.
Its getting there slowly.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: December 27, 2016, 09:09:41 PM »
Ta. No idea what type. Will look at pictures.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: December 27, 2016, 08:03:37 AM »
My *"+&%#@y father is doing the parts hunting and he assured me that the VMCC , which he joined, didn't have any!  Can't find anyone else. Adverts don't appear to tell the whole story. Time to do my own shopping!

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: December 26, 2016, 07:24:58 PM »
Well it is in only a few lumps now. What we cant find is a rim. 26 x 2 1/4 beaded.
Any ideas?

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: July 03, 2016, 06:51:00 PM »
Basic question
What threads etc will I find?

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: May 23, 2016, 08:56:07 PM »
The thing came to me in large lumps so stuck with that.  Watch this space.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: May 22, 2016, 06:42:19 PM »
That would be nice. I have small hope that the rear number plate is buried in garage. 

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: May 21, 2016, 12:29:07 PM »
May well have found the original sales leaflet for the copy online.   I know where the original of the pic shown on line is but its not accessible at the moment.
The lady who sold it to me, a close friend thinks that there is old film of it running. Watts' "boss" says that he knows of no other.
How would I get it registered? I guess some sales info from Watts ' would help but I expect that it might be tricky persuading the DVLA to accept just this.

British Bikes / Re: Watney m/c
« on: May 19, 2016, 12:31:10 PM »
It was an assembly by Watts job. My father is a mate of the current boss there who is searching old records.  Only blasting done is to mudguards and front wheel which show signs of black paint on spokes but I don't know if that was original. One tank was blasted and patched but I have the original with the logo very visible if oil stained.
To be honest, if I had a rear rim ( haven't found a source yet) and tyre I could make it into a roller in a day or two. Suspect that it might make sense to check engine has clear oilways etc and I am darn sure that the mag needs work.
The plan is to create a runner before any paint is done and that will be minimal as its only the guards that need it.
Any idea where a frame number might be if at all? Its not where I would expect to find one on either motorcycles or cycles.

British Bikes / Watney m/c
« on: May 18, 2016, 07:53:20 PM »
Hello. New to elderly motorcycles so I thought I would start here.
I have acquired a Watney.

Built just down the road. Its the bike in the pic, obtained from a close friend whose father had it for decades before he died. I have all that you can see except the rear rim and the front number plate has been cleaned off . grrrr. It is in big lumps plus some extras eg tank, lighting etc.
Where do I start?
 Can't find a frame number and the number on the engine, it's a Blackburne, that I have found looks wrong. DB329. Number on the Burman box is E17 5 or 8 9 . Both turn over and feel fine. 
I am hoping that some film of it running turns up with the reg number visible and identifiable people etc. Just may help getting it registered. I am assuming that a log book is long lost.
Expect this to be long winded unless someone points me to a better place !
Cheers, Matt

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