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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2018, 06:53:02 AM »
It is a requirement of the military contract that there be a parts book provided, so they must be about ?
Certainly the WD/C and WD/CO ones are plentiful enough.

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2018, 11:31:51 AM »
For any info re WD machines the only place to go is the WD M20 forum, those guys are fanatics for detail and history.

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2018, 09:15:17 PM »
It is a requirement of the military contract that there be a parts book provided, so they must be about ?
Certainly the WD/C and WD/CO ones are plentiful enough.


The workshop manual I have for the WD/CO is A4 size and the best workshop manual I've ever seen. Plentiful line drawings, exploded assemblies, specs, special tools etc. Shame Haynes didn't learn a few lessons from them.

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2018, 03:08:21 AM »
For any info re WD machines the only place to go is the WD M20 forum, those guys are fanatics for detail and history.

Jan is the expert on military Enfields, he was posting here a while back as REWDCO (?)
Until he started gathering info from actual owners, the knowledge was pretty thin....

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2018, 03:12:31 AM »

The workshop manual I have for the WD/CO is A4 size and the best workshop manual I've ever seen. Plentiful line drawings, exploded assemblies, specs, special tools etc. Shame Haynes didn't learn a few lessons from them.

Indeed.
Obviously written by someone who had been through all the steps on an actual bike, and had written it down as it went along.

Not like being taught to ride, without ever having sat on a bike... !

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2018, 08:01:07 AM »
the gearbox looks like a small burman

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2018, 09:23:07 AM »
Or the prewar Albion, which is what Enfields used.....


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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2018, 11:35:32 AM »
In the 1939 sales doc on Sheldons,it says you could have a 3 speed or a 4 speed for 1 pound extra.Tank looks a lot longer too in the sales pics.....The wd/co s were gutless,the wd/c s were hopeless ,so I can just imagine what a 250 sv was like....I remember arne schloss had a shed full of wd/c motors new that he used in mowers that he made.....Unfortunately arne did a naughty thing  and went to the bighouse......

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2018, 10:52:36 PM »
Must have a look at that, Enfields had 4 sp foot change for quite a while prewar.
Big range of models though, maybe my interests have been concentrated.

Yes, it was reputed that the military asked Enfields for more power from the (sidevalve) WD/C, since even for convoy work it wasn't too speedy.
The WD/CO (ohv) was the result, but only being a 350 it and the M20 and 16h were about the same.

btw, I've mown the grass/weeds with a mower with an Enfield G (ohv 350), and it only needed to be idled,
talk about chomping through the grass. Where my interest for Enfields came from ?

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2018, 12:07:37 AM »
It's definitely late '30s onwards, the adjuster handwheel on the forks came in (I think) about 1938.
There should be a separate oil tank that fits in between the engine and gearbox, between the engine plates.
Tank doesn't look right, and wouldn't have been chrome on a utility lightweight.
It may be "grey porridge", but it's a survivor. It deserves another day.

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2018, 02:05:14 AM »
There is a lot missing ,to be sure......and the finished article wont be of high value..........IMHO,the forks and frame will end up as a custom......or parted out on ebay.

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2018, 09:32:53 AM »
Not being a big fan of 350s (invariably a smaller engine in 500 running gear) but I was pleasantly surprised when giving the WD/CO a run. Pulls just as well as the accompanying B31's etc and has a nice solid feel too.
I can well imagine the SV to be "gutless" but not appropriate for this particular model. The post-war Model G had the same running gear though with heavier tele forks etc.

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2018, 11:58:06 AM »
The engine is model D

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2018, 02:32:01 AM »
Yes that was decided quite a way back.

Then the discussion moved on to that the 350cc Model WD/C was officially deemed gutless,
so how would a Model D (250cc) go ....

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Re: Royal Enfield 1930s? rustoration help needed idetifying exact model
« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2018, 03:56:22 AM »
Oliver b has left the building,so how about we reminisce on lawnmowers with motorbike engines.....My old man had several WM20 engines bought new from the army auctions that he used  in various agricultural things.....Anyone ever seen a Hargan Saw...an Aussie bush icon...They came with WD 16H Nortons and Triumph motors ,as well as the M20........they had a carby that allowed the motor to run upside down ,if necessary.