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Regarding questions about bidding online…
If you want do it, you must register asap in Bonhams system (shortly before auction it would be impossible):
https://www.bonhams.com/register/?full_reg=1&reg_rtn_path=/auctions/25384/lot/391/%23keep_bid_open%3D1%26id%3D5317058
and click 'bid' next to the motorcycle’s main picture.

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Honda Dream 3E was listed in Bonhams.

You can bid online. If you want do it, you must register asap and click 'bid'. It can be shipped worldwide.
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25384/lot/391/?category=list&length=394&page=1

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Bike is still for sale

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Haha let's talk about bikes. :D

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Methinks cultures shouldn't be mixed. It leads to conflicts and wars only.

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We also have huge problem with German companies, which destroy our businesses. Methinks EU has got much more disadvantages than advantages. Personally I would pull out my country from EU zone, but I can't :/

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Britain has got honest and brave politicians.

That is the funniest thing I have heard all week, we are presently governed by the biggest bunch of liars, thieves, crooks, and traitors in a our history. On one side is a  lying two faced anti british hag who is doing her best to cancel a democratic vote, and on the other side a  two faced anti british  marxist communist liar.

Yes I have seen an article about the Sokol sidecar outfit, but its a surprise to know you had so many makers of bikes, that is probably equal to here for the time.

However, if you can dig out from your remote farms some of those old BMW R75 outfits and Kettenkrads they used to use as tractors, according to a Polish friend of mine,they'll fetch good prices here. Crazy prices paid for left over wartime vehicles.

There are 3 Nazi tanks sunk in the swamp about 4 miles from my house ;)

And how about Brexit? Isn't it a great turn?

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Because in 1950's Jap bikes were primitive compared to British products ;)

tongue in cheek?  ;)  they were certainly primitive in their technology and innovation, so many of their bikes were outright copies or amalgamations of different British or European machines.

Certainly back in those very hard times here, many of our machines had definite pre 1940 technology obvious, but they worked well and reliably which is why so many survive all over the world and are so sought after.

Most of our money here went to paying back the USA for the privilege of buying their wartime equipment. We only just paid the last installment.
Your government has the right idea by sending their bill to Germany ;) :o

As I am Polish I can say about my country. Pre war we had around 30 motorcycle manufacturers. All of bikes were more advanced in 1920's than first Hondas from 1950's. The top bike Sokół 1000 was comparable to the top BMW and Zundapp bikes at the September 1939 battlefield. But Wehrmacht had much more vehicles.  So Poland lost campaign. And after the war nobody sent the bill to the Germany or Soviet Union, so I envy that you Britian has got honest and brave politicians.

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Because in 1950's Jap bikes were primitive compared to British products ;)
Thank you for the advices Mini.

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I suspect that  old Japanese bikes from 1953 have even less of an interest base here in UK as do tatty old french 2 strokes from 1953.

In 1953 any one who even thought of buying a Japanese bike would have been lynched, as the memory of Japanese POW atrocities was very fresh.

Personally I wold not give it garage room even if it was given free, and I agree that it would probably been worth more if you had left it as it was.

and £24 THOUSAND!! is a joke price for it here. No chance.

old honda or this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Norton-1947-Garden-Gate-Manx-Racing-Machine/302849741922?hash=item4683405462:g:wcYAAOSwfk9bWvvH

or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1956-BSA-GOLDSTAR-CLUBMANS-DBD-34-Black-Silver/332727262459?hash=item4d78171cfb:g:kE0AAOSwSzRZOTg8




Where do you live?

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1953-vincent-series_c_black_shadow

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It is not a joke
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23131/lot/84/

Younger and common model 4E sold for USD 26 500. Not correct replica of seats installed. Rust in many points.

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I am from Poland.

And sure. After WW2 things were different. Also Japan was the first country where recycling was common, due it not many old bikes are saved till today.

Note that you can't buy Honda Dream D from 1949 cheaper than USD 60 000 in very poor condition! I hunted for it 15 years and no chance.

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 Sure, maybe it is not very beautiful bike. But Honda exists till today BSA collapsed long time ago. I marked not very high price. Silly restored 3E models are sold for USD 40 000 - 45 000 from time to time. At this condition and mileage it is low price.
I also restored Porsche 911 from 1965 - it can achieve USD 400 000 point. It is very poor car compared to beautifull Jaguar E type from this era (technically advanced with bigger engines) and Jaguar is 3x times cheaper than Porsche today.

I am collector. I don't have many bikes, but I want to move from village to the city soon. Due it I have to sell my bikes.

Picture of my bike from 2016.


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Honda Dream 3E – year 1953
The oldest version of 3E model – very rare, has got the same wheel hubs like 2E model. Later 3E had oval wheel hubs. Engine and frame matching numbers. I am the 2nd owner since 1953.
Purchased in Japan a couple years ago. Since new, bike was stored in a dry room. Due it, the rust has never shown up. Until 2018 bike was in original condition. Still has got genuine drive chain and sprockets.
In 2018 bike was completely restored. New paint, all needed parts rechromed, engine and carb rebuilt, new wiring loom, new rear lens, headlight refreshed, new rubbers and tyres. Every single part looks like in 1953. Painted using enamel similar to the Honda’s one.
Runs at the first kick. Top compression. There is no oil smoke from the muffler. Engine doesn’t stall – runs very stable. Bike clutches, stops and shifts gears perfectly. Charging is great. Every single electrical part works fine.
Engine is 10km after rebuild, so it should be broken in by next owner.
Very genuine example of Honda Dream 3E.
Bike will be sold in Bonhams Stafford Autumn Show 19-20 October 2019.
You can also bid online. If you want do it, you must register asap and click 'bid'. It can be shipped worldwide.
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25384/lot/391/?category=list&length=394&page=1































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