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European and Other Bikes / Re: Monet Goyon Identification
« on: October 03, 2018, 08:05:03 AM »
the brass plate is on the front forks the number is stamped into the frame above the gearbox.
http://www.ahmrc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/36-villiers-engines-part-1.pdf
my engine has Mark V11 A cast into it and as far as I can tell made in 1924/25

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Monet Goyon Identification
« on: October 02, 2018, 07:24:38 AM »
Sorry old chap, this bike is a lash up, that engine is out of a lawnmower or some other industrial application.
If you look at the engine plates you will see there is an extra hole sticking out of the front, a sure sign that engine is not out that frame.
I have seen this  kind of set up before.
The carb position is all wrong, and I'm unhappy about the gearbox and the way it is fitted.

Did I ask if it was ever registered in Ireland?

On the head-stock, and as is common to most bikes on the continong, you  should have a small plate on which are stamped various details about the bike,  model, engine size, date of manufacture and so on. Is there one?

It may even have started life as a Kohler-Escoffier, sister to Monet Goyon, like AJS/Matchless.

Time to make a hard decision I think, but FFS, do not spend any money on it,cut your losses.

plate will look similar to this  https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Plaque-de-cadre-moto-Peugeot-/173502648382?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720

or  http://guigui-monetgoyons6vu.blogspot.com/2014/02/plaque-de-cadre.html

and here is a site covering Monet Goyon two strokes for you to look over.

http://www.monet-goyon.net/2tempsAVG.html

I might be wrong about that extra hole, seems to be one on these, so far type ZA2 1931 look close to what yours is meant to be.
according to the Villiers website the engine is definitely designed for a motorcycle and made for 1 year only a 247cc, it has a Monet Goyon brass badge on the front but nothing else written on it, the only other thing is the number 38082

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Monet Goyon Identification
« on: September 29, 2018, 03:31:41 PM »
i paid 850 euro.




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European and Other Bikes / Re: Monet Goyon Identification
« on: September 29, 2018, 07:03:05 AM »
thanks for all the info guys, i will get more pictures today, i bought it at a deceased auction, the guy had a good few bikes mostly from the 1920's Hudsons, Ajs, etc.  a guy i met at the auction seemed to think it was a race bike for some reason.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Monet Goyon Identification
« on: September 26, 2018, 01:39:26 PM »
i bought it in Ireland , where I am from, i have seen a 1930 monet goyon and it looks very similar, but you think it couldn't be that early?
the serial number on the frame is 38082 if that is any help. The engine looks like it has always been there, and if you were going to change the engine why put in one from the 1920's?

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European and Other Bikes / Monet Goyon Identification
« on: September 26, 2018, 07:39:31 AM »
Hi all, I am very new to the vintage motorcycle scene and i have just acquired a monet goyon and I am trying to find out exactly what it is
it is fitted with a Villiers mark 7A which from my research is a 247cc engine and only made between 1924/1925, so does this date the bike? I have tried contacting the monet goyon owners club but I got no response. Can anyone shed any light on this for me, any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.



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