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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 26, 2019, 07:41:13 PM »
Thanks I just hope he has some model A stuff as it would be better to swap for bits we need rather than cash that easily disappears on something else
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 26, 2019, 09:51:04 AM »
Just had a good chat with hime and he is going to think about it for a couple of day but it looks like he will sell any none model A bits, what should he ask for the Gearbox?
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 26, 2019, 08:02:14 AM »
I put this on several forums and I now have two people asking about buying it!
The dilemma, with my sons limited budget it would free up some money for the Model A repairs. But chances are he will never own such an early engine and gear box again, but apart form the expensive bike with the wrong engine etc on Ebay he may never find the rest to build it up, its hard enough with the model A
So should he sell the engine and box?
Split them?
Hang on until he finds the rest?
How much should he ask?
The dilemma, with my sons limited budget it would free up some money for the Model A repairs. But chances are he will never own such an early engine and gear box again, but apart form the expensive bike with the wrong engine etc on Ebay he may never find the rest to build it up, its hard enough with the model A
So should he sell the engine and box?
Split them?
Hang on until he finds the rest?
How much should he ask?
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 25, 2019, 09:38:03 AM »
Just had a quick look, looks like we have a very early engine here's the head/ cylinder with broken fin
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 25, 2019, 09:04:12 AM »
No I wonder how cheaply we could build a 20's or 30's bike? I still find it hard to believe how much stuff people have hidden away, it needs digging out and re assembling
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British Bikes / Re: Bike or mower?
« on: July 25, 2019, 09:02:55 AM »Oddly, having conducted a Mk8C powered Excelsior for some while I found the forward facing carburettor to be no problem. You take one look and the first thought is that it will suck up every bit of road muck and water you come across but it was never an issue. I'm sure it must have swallowed some bits and bobs but it wasn't bothered by it.I did wonder about sucking stuff in but as you say its all about space
As to why it pointed forward, again, one look and you saw how much a rear facing manifold and carb would interfere with the hand gear change mechanism with both of them fighting for the same space on the bike. Remember, this engine was designed in the early 1920's when single speed belt drive bikes were still sold new and today's foot gear change was still years in the future. Designers were still finding answers to things we don't even recognise as a problem today. I think this is why I find vintage bikes interesting and modern bikes dull.
Cheers,
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British Bikes / Re: Bike or mower?
« on: July 25, 2019, 09:01:47 AM »For 10 quid its an education, I paid twice that for a mower with oneof these engines!Cant buy much for £10!
Our 34 Royal Enfield was very expensive at £30!
We will easily have £10 worth of fun trying to get it going and making a stand for it, what I didn't realise at the time is another stall had some of the ignition bits for £1!
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 25, 2019, 08:59:21 AM »
Thanks Leon
Whilst its right up our street condition wise as we like the unrestored look, we just can't justify or afford the asking price, we are more at the bargain basement end of the old bike world, what we cant buy cheaply we have to make or fit something else, it does upset the purists but we have little option, the main thing is we just want another old bike on the road again.
Without looking to be certain it looks like we have an early engine and the Gearbox in the pics, but that's only part of the tale as its all the odds and ends that cause the most issues, I think we have 4 carbs but should be able to make one good correct one from the lot.
Whilst its right up our street condition wise as we like the unrestored look, we just can't justify or afford the asking price, we are more at the bargain basement end of the old bike world, what we cant buy cheaply we have to make or fit something else, it does upset the purists but we have little option, the main thing is we just want another old bike on the road again.
Without looking to be certain it looks like we have an early engine and the Gearbox in the pics, but that's only part of the tale as its all the odds and ends that cause the most issues, I think we have 4 carbs but should be able to make one good correct one from the lot.
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 25, 2019, 08:30:22 AM »Thanks I have found it, its a pity he has converted it to a different engine but I understand how hard it can be to get parts, it too expensive for usHave you any photos of it in position?
I think your gear has kick start on the left of the machine, and hand gear change, so maybe something like this 2 1/4 h.p. from 1923.
https://www.yesterdays.nl/product/royal-enfield-1923-model-201-225-cc-1cyl-ts/
Thanks Leon I wish I could find more photos showing the actual bit
Leon
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 25, 2019, 08:29:38 AM »Thanks I have found it, its a pity he has converted it to a different engine but I understand how hard it can be to get parts, it too expensive for usHave you any photos of it in position?
I think your gear has kick start on the left of the machine, and hand gear change, so maybe something like this 2 1/4 h.p. from 1923.
https://www.yesterdays.nl/product/royal-enfield-1923-model-201-225-cc-1cyl-ts/
Leon
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British Bikes / Re: Mystery part
« on: July 25, 2019, 07:00:50 AM »
Thanks gents.
Have you any photos of it in position? A link to the face book bike? I suspect the engine we got in the deal is also very early as from memory its slightly different to the model A but I will have to check
Have you any photos of it in position? A link to the face book bike? I suspect the engine we got in the deal is also very early as from memory its slightly different to the model A but I will have to check
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British Bikes / Re: Bike or mower?
« on: July 24, 2019, 08:35:38 PM »The Mk6C was a one year production only for motorcycles, 1923 if I remember rightly but continued in ATCO lawnmowers well in to the 1930’s. You can pretty well guarantee any Mk6C you find has come from an ATCO. They are not well suited to powering a motorcycle. Underpowered as their breathing is too restricted.The chap on the Villers parts stall told me this too, problem is if its got no brackets I don't think you can tell bike or mower engine apart?
Decompressors are common on all Villiers two strokes but sometimes are not fitted particularly on really cheap versions. You can see where it is meant to be but the requisite machining hasn’t been done.
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British Bikes / Re: Bike or mower?
« on: July 24, 2019, 08:33:54 PM »I feel the same these days, though looking at stalls flogging cheap Taiwan tools and really over-priced "projects" doesn't help.Only one cheap tool dealer, some stuff was overpriced but we felt in general it was good
Average Joes clearing their sheds are great, part-time tat dealers aren't.
We bought a good assortment of stuff at what we felt where good prices, mostly dealers but a few people having a clear out, we did see a bloke buy a wheel for £350!
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British Bikes / Re: Bike or mower?
« on: July 24, 2019, 08:29:17 PM »As it has flimsy mounts and a forward-facing carb I'd say mower, but I'm certainly no expert!The Bike and mower both had a forward facing carb
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British Bikes / Mystery part
« on: July 24, 2019, 08:27:17 PM »
My son bought a box of bits for hid Royal Enfield Model a in amongst them was this, which we dont recognise?