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European and Other Bikes / which nozzle?
« on: April 12, 2010, 07:38:38 PM »
Hi all, I have a question about nozzles in carburetors.

i made my second bike, 2stroke 2 cylinder benelli 250 2c for race.
originally hee has 2  dellorto VHB 24, vith nozzle - 100.

The change about engine is:  no barrel vith chambers for slowmotion air, i got  dellorto NOS, 
instead of serial  exhauster  i got resonant open exhauster per cylinder,
and  expand of intake  channels in cylinders.

So: i take nozzles instead 100, 115,(compenzation for more air) and i dont have power.
i try nozzles 125, 130, 140, 145, and same problem.
my mechanic say  to i need larger carburetors, accurately dellorto VHB 30.

i understand that is bigger, moore soup, and all, but can I  combine something with small vhb 24, and large set of nozzles?

thnx,  Miljenko


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European and Other Bikes / benelli 250 2c
« on: January 31, 2010, 07:57:16 PM »
Hi there!

  finaly I restored my old benelli 2502c for oldtimer race.
after road race, for him I got some plans at Automotodrom Grobnik.
for road,  I have ducati Pantah 650




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If you try find original ignition, you failed. I search dansi for my benelli 2502c, about 3 year all over the internet,  and no result. If you need profi ignition, you can find it at old sell places with old bike parts, and price is about 150 to 250 EURos, I hawe a friend that hawe restauration workshop in Zagreb (Agram), and use them too models like Kreidler, Ziegler, Sever, Morbidelli, and one 250 Aermacchi. That kind of ignition have add vor Rpm.  If you fail find anithing, and must hawe only a spark, and bike to run, i can send you elektrosheme with parts to make your own ignition vor my benelli, it works like old original, and all pieces is about 5-6 Euro.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: March 30, 2008, 03:50:08 AM »
Quote

I'm surprised to see that the wiring is little more complicated than I thought, my bike has one cylinder.. the points were bad a lot time ago and they aren't there.. I was using a "Atom" electronic ignition chip, that basically was an very small plastic piece (about 1 inch long) with a tyristor, diode and capacitor inside... and only two wires, but.. at 15 years old.. it went bad :-/
Your set up is pretty much the same, but i'm reading it one more time to know how to connect it to the bike.. :)

this electronic ignition is for one cylinder, I have mechanical modification in my 2stroke benelli that it works for two. This ignition is about 32 years old, and my diagram is authentical, I made it that way too I must open old ignition that whose cowered with hard plastic, and after 2 days i make diagram and try gess electronic parts. But the principial is the same, thyristor is electronic switch, diode is the one way wents stabilization, capacitor is for condensing electronic power of impulse that goes to capacitor, witch one make impuls stronger about couple 1000, and make spark.

good luck!

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: March 22, 2008, 07:32:49 AM »
and if you make yor own ignition like in pic, clever is make cover, and post hoot plastic, for test drive I only isolate elements vith guff tape

P.S.
if you see L2 and L3 is short cyrcuit, but you must connect wires too diferent places, and  I have tvo grounds, that is vith ommether short ( grounds from generator and ground from bobina( highvoltage spoil)) it goes too L2 and L3

if i remember something, I post it

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: March 22, 2008, 07:24:23 AM »
here is pic of prototype  ;D

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: March 22, 2008, 07:21:06 AM »
I use online dictionary for some words so if something is not understending, tell me.
before I made my ignition, i $%^&& my self 2 years at internet, motoservises and servisers for electronic and zero points. I vent to Imola in Italy and find all neew or old parts, cilinders, magneto, everiting, but elecronic ignition.
Possible is too make batery ignition vith no magneto, but it needs  lots of vork  and changes in bike, my frend have a workshop for restauration and got lots of parilla, ducati, keidler, ziegler, sever and other, and all juse one same ignition, vith no generator.
Short explenation of my benelli  wiaring diagram:
i have 2 cilinders, witch pistons are in 180 degree diference. i dont have two electronics or two pick ups, i have one pick up and one electronicks, but magneto have two indicator too pick up, and it give two sparks in same time in booth cilinders in one process. one is in upper  point, and other usseles is in down piston point, but in this moment it gives in same time spark in other cylinder where is in upper point (piston)
i can post from my manual wiaring diagram, but is complicated because lots of useless wires for other stuff like lights and other that is not important for generator-capacitor-spoil-spark process.
And i have batery 6V, and is only vor pover and stabilization of lights, you can start bike vith no batery.
Prymary function of ignition is replacement for mechanic     contact breaker which looses 1/6 sparks

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: March 22, 2008, 07:00:44 AM »
in my previous post you have names of parts, if is not good, and it have some trouble vith rpm's, i have experience vith 1micro F condensers, bike vhose not vorking under 4000 rpm, and I put 2, and all vorks fine, like original.
how to conect to bike
L1- came from stator spool(coil, reel), goes too induktance ( look like big capacitor) and from capacitor too L1

L2- too high voltage spool(spool for sparkplug), not hot, ground of spool

L3-cames from stator ground from coil spool,

L4- cames from pick up

L5-hot of high voltage spool

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: March 22, 2008, 06:42:40 AM »
Hello from Croatia!
Here is the diagram

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European and Other Bikes / Re: making transistor ignition
« on: April 13, 2006, 10:00:11 AM »
F I N A L Y, I made it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Evil part of this thyristor ignition( centralina eletronicca) vhose copright protected by factory Benelli, covered in plastic, vith  protected unnamed elements. I made a viaring diagram, that includes thyristor300V, 5 diods N4007, one R=26 ohm, and two C=1 microF. IT works fine, just like the original one, and this engine, 231ccm3, with 32 horse powers driwe 155 at 7000 r/min.  I must thx myself... THX myljach!!!!!!

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European and Other Bikes / making transistor ignition
« on: December 24, 2005, 07:13:07 AM »
Hi everyone! Is enybody makin a electronic ignition vith thiristor  or transistor, I making my one for my benelli 2502c (1976) and have some litle trouble. This Italian part vhose protected by factory vith plastic and unnamed electronics elements, but I still have open up it, making a  sheme, and i cant identify transystor (or thyristor), also have a 6 diods and 1 kapasity. Its simply electronic for two  stroke engine, and i have some material for making ignitions for cars. Is enibody have some electronic diagram, shematic or anything? If not, wen I solve the problem , I have to publish it. Thx for reading this :-D

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Jawa 350 Oilmaster
« on: March 22, 2008, 07:54:52 AM »
offtopic: anybody wish buy Jawa speedway 500 ccm, OHC valves?

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Benelli bikes
« on: March 22, 2008, 07:46:47 AM »
my benelli 250 have a 32 HP, air cooling  engine, ( 231ccm, 2 stroke, 2cylinder 1976Year) good is i made some preparations for race, if you put vibrant exshaust, you get 10-30 % power. vith factory exshoust it goes about 160 km/h.
Bad is air cooling system, at sommer vith 40 C degree, at 8000 rpm the piston is blick the engine and piston rod is brake it off.
 From mechanical side, gear box is similar too morbidelli. spare parts, I  went too Italy every year in Imola.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: Benelli bikes
« on: August 11, 2005, 06:39:49 AM »
 ;D  Hi Dude!   mi name is Miljenko and i am from Zagreb, Croatia and i have Benelli 250 2c 1976. In my country Benelli is a rare and i got trouble finding spare parts, but now is ewritin fine. I got a diler who goes ewery week in italy , and before that i whos searching  electronic ignition about 1 year and coudnt find it (forums,shoops,e-bay)and i sold my first benelli 125 2c, then by 250 2c.Motor vhose by an electrisian guy whos making an own ignitions from electronic parts and diagrams,but problem vhose deeper, machine vhose tun up for race, dhey got third kanal true every cilinder for better mixing gas and air, magnette vhos cut off  too changing pick up and it working at 10000 - 15000 r/min.
But now i got a 250 2c benelli, it vorks fine, Longest yorney i have too Grobnik in Rijeka. about 180 km vith no pause, 120km/h (maximum is 150 for that model)and machine works fine, no heating damage, well you know if you got a 2-stroke engine cooing by air , must bee extra gently. So if you wont have old benelli, must have some basic knowledge about mechanic engenering and good supley by spare parts.

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European and Other Bikes / Re: benelli wiring diagram
« on: April 17, 2006, 02:32:19 AM »
sorry, but is too late to say no, I have allready scan from manuel, and I dont know anny other thing to do than publish diagram.  This is for Benelli 250 2c, 1976. Tell if is the same in yor's, and for what do you need it? Are you have a problem vith ignition, or Lights? I'm curious

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