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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 10, 2011, 10:33:38 PM »
Here we go again;

The matchless 750, according to Gramps, was not a scrambler (that was a possible suggestion from me, however wrong it may have been) and it was pre war. It was built to run with a sidecar and as such pulled in one direction under acceleration (he told me which but I don't remember or feel it important to me even if it may be to you). He changed the sprocket(or some such technical word) so it wasn't so highly geared(might have said that wrong, if it enriches your life to correct me please do). There were many others as he had his first bike whilst he was still at school and he left school very young.

So to the war: although there were two MAIN bikes they were both Triumphs one of which was a standard issue and the other (which officially did not exists) made from bits of a variety of Triumph bikes, he ran both on the same number plates(illegally clearly). He had a blue and white arm band that allowed him to ride as fast as he could without being stopped. I'm not clear about the next point but he disconnected the limiter(this could have been on trucks which he drove for a period through the war rather than bikes). As far as refuelling goes there were army refuelling depose set up along most major routes.

Certain facts may not be entirely accurate but please remember what I'm trying to do, and why, and show enough imagination to appreciate the circumstance in which I'm trying to achieve them. What I consider a fact is that he did do London to Huddersfield and back, a journey he suggested today(without prompt or reference) was 420miles, on a regular basis. This has been supported by his word, my grandmothers and my fathers throughout my living memory and that of the fore mentioned.

I would happily prove this is doable (for a charity of your choice) if anyone is good enough to lend me an appropriate Triumph or lesser bike on which to do so. Sadly certain quarters value their shiny garage ornaments more than they value the opportunity to honour the ethos and sacrifice that helped create them.

For those that have offered help and encouragement, thank you.

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 07, 2011, 04:03:47 PM »
I only said they were bikes he'd owned not necessarily over the war period.

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British Bikes / Re: Free film of you on bike?
« on: January 07, 2011, 11:36:03 AM »
This is a link to my first trial video. I'm new to it all so the end result should be a little smoother and have a clearer narrative. Still looking for anyone willing to participate with bikes from around the WW2 era, not too concerned about which.
I'm hoping to have a Helmet cam for the final shoot.
http://vimeo.com/18481161
I have not edited the sound yet so you may wish to turn it off. Has anyone got suggestions for appropriate sound tracks for the final video?

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 04, 2011, 06:49:21 PM »
I've done 100 miles in a days cycling and I'm a fat lad. In a ten hour day you only need to average 10 miles an hour. Hence on a journey of 400 (which is the actual distance there and back on the A roads) (even if it probably wasn't then!)you only need to average 40mph. Never said it would have been easy but it is very much do-able.
 
It's not a factual documentary for the BBC it's to make an old man happy who is no longer able to get on a bike. If I get facts wrong it's good to be corrected in a constructive fashion. What I'm really looking for are links and resources to help my research and hopefully achieve my goal.

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 04, 2011, 10:55:11 AM »
I have known him all my life in fact I believe my dad has too, strangely. The 'story' has remained the same all his life even when he wasn't getting on. It's also a story confirmed by my Grandma.
But loving the cynicism.

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 03, 2011, 11:24:06 PM »
 ;D

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 03, 2011, 11:23:25 PM »
It is also possible he rode the triumph after the end of the war as this was only a list of bikes he'd ridden (not necessarily through WW2).

http://www.ianchadwick.com/motorcycles/triumph/models.html
A 5/3W 500 sv model was designed for military use in 1949, replaced by TRW.

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 03, 2011, 11:08:25 PM »
Although I have found a 250 AGS it does look a little late so I may be wrong he may have meant an AJS or I wrote it down wrong.
Is there not a matchless scrambler 750; this link may not but it but I did find a reference to it. http://www.cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/matchless/Matchless_1930_ohv_14-802.htm
Triumphs of that size did exist in that era although they may not have been standard issue. I believe him when he tells me his position allowed him to pick the best bikes available in the armies possession. 
At 60miles an hour you could cover 480 miles in 8 hours which is about (if not less than) what the journey would have been at the time. Given he told me he left at 5am I find it quite plausible that he'd make it back to 'London the same night'.

Think I'll believe his account over your opinion but thank you all the same. The forum is part of my research process so any constructive advice is gratefully received.
Thank you for idea about postcards it was a great idea I'll try to follow up.

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: January 03, 2011, 01:43:23 PM »
First filming session is going to be on Wednesday over the tops between Harrogate and Otley. Only bikers available ride a new bmw and a new triumph but it will be good to practise on.   

The bikes my Grandpa rode were an AGS 1920 250c, a Matchless 1930 750cc and an Army Triumph 500cc. These are the ones he can remember there are more and his fastest bike was made from parts pilfered from the army parts department. We are going to go through his cigarette cards, postcards and photos to see if any of them refresh his memory.

He used to go from London to Leicester every other day. When he got to Leicester he disconnect his speedo and went to visit his wife in Huddersfield, making it back to London the same night.

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British Bikes / Re: Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: December 31, 2010, 05:59:00 PM »
Fair comment. ;D
It may well be an impressive failure but we can only but do our best.
I do have an HD SLR that makes incredible quality films and I'm probably buying a small HD helmet cam in the sales.
The photography and film department of the Beaulieu motor museum are kindly helping to advise me on the project. I've found a few wiling participants to practise on, but on modern bikes unfortunately, and will try to post examples by the end of next week.
Visiting my grandpa this weekend for more details so will keep you posted.
Thank you for the links, any support is gratefully received.

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British Bikes / Re: New to Vintage Motorbikes: Advice and Knowledge needed
« on: December 31, 2010, 07:56:44 AM »
If they've not scared you off I'd suggest looking at a BMW r100 they are bullet proof. The earlier bikes are classics and best left as they are some of these may appeal but there are some great mods about on later bikes. They are everyday bikes that are great fun and cheap to keep on the road. Have a look at this link and open the pdf for the english translation on BMW boxer twins.
http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.dnvjxqtaqfhxwmvv&pageId=728514 Get a basic bike and see if you take to it. The R80 would be a great place to start, some people say they're too heavy and that the gear change is clunky but it's all part of the joy. If you find you do fall for it you can always spend some money modifying it later.
Here's another example of what you can do with deep pockets. http://www.flickr.com/photos/flatracer/2621672902/
I only pasted my test last summer and getting your licence is hard work and expensive. But it's worth the rewards, I made it down to Monaco and into Tuscany this summer. If you want a classic, good on you but as your experience grows you may soon find you want more from the bike than it has to offer.

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British Bikes / Free film of you on bike?
« on: December 30, 2010, 02:15:11 PM »
Is there anybody in West Yorkshire who fancies being filmed on their bike next week? Follow this link for an explanation of why I'm doing it: http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251861 or read the thread below on WWII dispatch rider.

There will be a fair bit of pratting about getting close up shots of the bike and shots of the throttle, clutch lever, etc being operated. The fun bit should be drive-bys from a number of different vantage points. Could do with some over a hump back bridge and filming down from a bigger bridge as the bike goes under. I'll possibly get the transit out and do some with the door open. I've not got a helmet cam yet but am looking at getting a hd one of similar quality to my main camera. If you have one you could bring along it would be a real bonus.

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British Bikes / Dispatch rider in WWII
« on: December 30, 2010, 10:36:58 AM »
I'm re-riding and filming routes my grandfather used to take as a dispatch rider in the war. (Slightly ironically I'll be on my BMW R80GS). Unfortunately I need to do it as soon as possible so hope to have it done by the end of January. The main route is likely to take the A roads from Huddersfield down to London and may cross over to France. The route may change after talking to him in more depth but I'm happy to make detours to points of interest.

He also drove trucks and was a big fan of speedway so I'd like to incorporate this in the trip also. Does anyone have recommendations for appropriate sound tracks from the time? Any background about the role he would have played and other relevant info on research material would be gratefully received.
 
As he describes it he used to have the pick of the best bikes available at the time. I realise that it will be difficult to find people willing to take out bikes of that era at this time of year. I shall find out more about the bikes he rode but do you know of anyone who would be willing to let me film them (on appropriate bikes).

As he is not able to join me for the trip my aim is to make a film that takes him back to the memories he speaks so fondly of: Stories such as laying his bike down in front of trainee recruits. If you have any other information or could put me on to links that may be of use, for research or support, I'd be very grateful.

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