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Wow, I don't look for 2 days and there's an explosion of content !

Leon - thanks for your offer, but I have several plates, all rubbish because the part that should be flat on the outside of the dish is... you guessed it - dished itself.
Now, I might be old fashioned, but when a steel clutch plate has to contact a flat friction plate, I prefer it to be flat too
In my opinion, it is a design flaw to make a steel plate that will distort when it gets hot so that it is no longer serviceable, and all the plates I have show that sign. So the plates might have been very clever to fit into a small space, back in the day when you could get new ones whenever you wanted, but today they are crap.
Also, I am a rudge club member, and I have the drawings for M2062x5 and its design thickness, from the drawing, is 16G = 0.064"
So !
Eureka !
I think you may have some that were made such that they resist heat distortion !
As in exactly what a race dept would do without telling the public
1/8" nominal will definitely be more robust than 1/16" nominal !

And as far as swapping parts from one manufacturer to another goes... back in the day, they would do just whatever they thought might be helpful... just as we should be prepared to do today if it means keeping an old clunker on the road rather than as just a pretty museum piece

I'd still 'just' like to get some new standard-ish steels though 

Help please !
I've decided its time the 'bargain' rickman frame was sorted out. The project totally stalled when I realised that the 6T unit engine was never meant to fit the frame mounts... and especially not with the dreadfully-tacked-on chrome tube below the original front mounts. Attempts to get info out of Gerry whatsits lot yielded a resounding 'not interested'.
I'm inclined to fit what it was originally designed for...
So - anyone know if the 'rickman story' book has any useful details ?
Its was registered in Nov '68 as a Triumph 500, with frame #R316
Pics attached

There's certainly enough fact in that thread to let you know that what you get will be a complete lottery in terms
of quality and dimensions.

Ho hum.
God save us from cheap $hit.
Now, who do I know who can make a pattern to machine from billet 

Hmm, that last thread has the following quote:

spoke with a guy today who selled 21 one of those
he got 19 back with cracked and snapped castings
2 of them didn't come back because of luck ...or the projects are not done yet
so the girders are still in a corner instead of being mounted and driven

well he said because of the fact that these are hard to come buy
he tried them
he bought 25 of them
he got 19 back ...3 where to $%^&&ed up when he recieved them ,to sell these would give bad karma he said
the other 3 got sold to 2 too people who didn't came back with it
and the last one to a guy he'sdoing a complete resto for
now because he feels bad he took one of his one org. girders out of one of his own bikes to help the guy out ,he's doing the resto for

so he paid for 25 pieces and he didn't recieve any money back from the "india" seller
because that guy blames the shippers ,salt water fumes on the trip over,and that this shop owner i know wasn't careful enough unwrapping
the girders etc etc > WTF !!!!

so he lost loads of cash and has a bunch of shitty girders that are deadtraps

At last something substantial !
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=388072&page=1 Post#379348
Definitely castings.
Definitely need plenty of fettling to make them fit.
And they've gone very quiet on that thread since june !

rebuilds girder forks in birmingham i will try and find his number , rebuilt / restored webbs are about £900 or thats what i payed last time , they are perfect and now on my KSS

Thanks - found his email with a web search but he hasnt got anything in just now

I was hoping to hear from someone or of someone who'd bought some indian-made GIRDERS.
If you remember what the quality of the old indian-made enfields was like or have seen some indian engineering or seen pictures of what indians actually ride around on, then you will understand my reticence.
Just because the latest indian enfields now have some quality control doesnt mean that all indian engineering has quality control.

And another thing ... if they were any good wouldnt more people be marketing them ?
I have seen no reports on them.
That doesnt make me feel comfortable.
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