Replacing engines...paperwork?

[greybuffalo]

If one replaces an engine,I was told the V5 only applies to the frame....so does the engine have any kind of paperwork,or do I just inform the DVLA that it now has a new engine number?doI need any paper work?

[VintageBike]

You are quite right.  The engine can be replaced as long a the DVLA re told that it has been changed.  No other paperwork is required.

Cheers

Nigel.

[Panzergranate]

  I Rotate engines throughout my bikes so often that I just don't bother to keep notifying the DVLA.

Whenever has anyone ever seen a Traffic Cop bother to check anything other than the tax disc and number plate??

Yep, I thought so.... never.

I don't think many cops know where the chassis numbers on various makes of bike exists, as they aren't all in the same places from make to make.

I do know of people, in the past who have had, identical bikes all running the same number plate and tax disc for many years and never being caught ,despite routine stoppages by Police. They're only interested that the vehicle make, tax disc and number plate match with the DVLA computer records.

[Searchguru]

Hi,
You are correct in your assumption that the police are unlikely to check that your engine number is the same as recorded on your V5. The real problem you will face is, should you end up in a collision. Your insurance company will use the fact that the engine is not the recorded one to wash their hands of their responsibility. Any change from the original that they don't know about gives them a way to wriggle out of paying for anything.

[Panzergranate]

Ridng a motorcycle usually involves someone else's insurance footing the bill for the accident their client caused.

So far, in 27 years of riding, I've yet to a crash that was my fault. I've always had some idiot crash into me. The last one, in 1991 involved a woman doing a U-turn on a roundabout 10 yards from a Traffic Cop car.

I had no problems with the claim there considering the witness I had!! Oh and she was done on 4 counts including not signaling when performing the illegal maneuver!! The cop asked me, whilst I was in the ambulance, if she was signalling as he wanted to do her for 4 things instead of 3!!  

My bike, a 79,000 mile Aprillia 350 A/C 2 stroke suffered a smashed sealed beam headlamp, bent left hand shock absorber unit and a broken pillion footrest/exhaust frame hangar. I had to dismantle the whole bike and find a specialist fram welder to fix it. I still haven't reassembled the bike yet after all the years since then. Maybe I'll think about it tomorrow.

The weedling out thing with insurance companies, only happens if the engine is totally different than the engine that should be in the bike. Insurance claims are on culpability and only actions that made the vehicle illegal to use allow them to weasle out of coughing up.

Being over the drink driving limit and then having someone crash into you automatically prevent you making a claim on someone's insurance!!

Like I said, never caused an accident in 27 years, so far, and enjoying paying peanuts (£86 per annum) to Norwich Union to run four of my bikes on the road each year.

[Searchguru]

I've just checked with Carole Nash, with whom I am insured. They state that if the number on the bike's engine does not match that which is recorded on the registration document you will NOT be insured. This is even if it is an identical engine, but for the numbers. There is also a legal requirement to inform DVLA of ANY change to your vehicle. Therefore if you end up in a smash, regardless of fault, and your bike is examined by an insurance representative it may well be the end of your claim. This may also negate any legal expenses add-ons that your policy had. In other words you could be up a certain water course without a propulsion device!

[Panzergranate]

A friend in Oxford had a expensive BMW car, who's driver had passed out at the wheel, glanced off of another car and crashed into the rear sidecar outfit at the traffic lights.

Apart from the demolished sidecar, broken left hand shock absorber and bent exhaust system, the JAWA came off lightly. The BMW lost the whole front including radiator.

I've had a Nissan Micra hit a JAWA and the car lost, a few years ago. I've heard rumours of what Cossacks do to cars as well.

Anyhow, it transpires that the driver was uninsured due to the fact that he was medically unfit to drive.
 
Despite having easy DIY fixable damage to the bike, he has to sit around waiting on his insurance to assess the damage. He's worried that he'll end up out of pocket because the guy was not insured. I told him that his company will pay out but will them sue the uninsured driver for the loss.

He was lucky only to have been shaken and bruised as he didn't fall off.

He was on his way to pick up his 12 year old son from school at the time.

Being hit by an uninsured and unfit to drive idiot is probally everybody's worst nightmare.

They tell us what to do when someone hits us who is insured, but what about when the car or van driver is uninsured?? No one ever tells us what the procedure is when or if it happens.

Anyone else experienced this??