Albion 2 stud fixing gear box

[mark2]

Albion 2 stud fixing gear box , I have two gearboxes both two stud fixings ,one has a speedo drive , gear change mechanism is in two different location one at the side and one at the front  , number on one starts LEL . I will clean up and post some pics . is there a site for these boxes as I would like to id them before I sell, they came with a rudge but not for that machine

[R]

Clean them up and post the pics, and we can see if anyone here knows them.
Albions sold to a number of makers, including Royal Enfields for quite a myriad of models,
for quite some years, so they will be No 1 suspect (just by volume ?).
Rudges used Moss boxes, didn't they. ?
Was that exclusively.

[chaterlea25]

Hi,
To the best of my knowledge, other than the first year after the multi, which may have been a Jardine box? Rudge made their own four speed gearboxes, in which the shafts run on loose needle roller bearings
Their internal design looks to have been copied but beefed up by Condor/Universal on their A680 models
but these use a combination of caged needle bearings and bushes

There are dozens of different models/ design variations on Albions, its very difficult to know which exact bike they are fitted to by just looking 

HTH
John

[33d6]

Chaterlea25 is being very polite. Albion made gearboxes from before World War 1 up to well in the 1960's. They made two, three and four speed boxes plus three speed and reverse. They came with both hand and foot change and were either top mount, bottom mount, or pivot mounted. On top of that identical looking boxes were made with different chain lines so they look as if they should fit; but they don't. As well as being made for motorcycles they were also fitted to light cars and all sorts of industrial and light agricultural equipment.

In short, identifying any particular Albion box can be very tricky.

There is a good side to all this. For all the variations they made they tended standardise on the internals so finding suitable internals for a restoration isn't so hard. It's the actual aluminium gearbox case that usually causes problems. Not only do you have to find one with the correct mounting, it also has to be repairable. Many aren't.

Anyway, I look forward to your photos and details.

Cheers,