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johnnyboy-wonder57

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Epetition
« on: September 18, 2012, 10:47:41 AM »
Hi,
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22251

This is a link to sign an epetition against a raft of new laws proposed by Europe, including the perniciously named Anti-Tampering Laws, Type Approval issues & the future of building Specials & Customising motorcycles, in France there has been a proposal to outlaw motorcycles in urban areas over 7 years old!

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Re: Epetition
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 09:47:46 AM »
The E-petition needs 100,000 signatures to be debated in Parliament,  before the middle of November.  If you care about the future of motorcycling copy,  the link & pass it on, if stop check emission tests come, they  (the Bureaucrats), could by retrospective legislation eventually expand the checks to wider remits, thereby affecting Classic machines!

The petition only has less than 17,000 signatures, if Type- Approval tightens up, you for instance will lose after-market products, through non-listed approved parts being illegal, plus your insurance could be made invalid by legislation, if you fit non-approved goods.

Closed loop, induction, ignition ECU controlled systems are to a large extent anti- tamper, ( change one component part & the whole system can become out of balance), unless you have access to expensive diagnostic re-tuning equipment & this loop-hole looks like being closed with anti-tamper software being fitted to many motorcycles from new.

There are proposals that owners may not be allowed to service their own machines, remember once they get an inch they take a mile, the insidious the "stop & crush policy" could be extended, although the British Historic Vehicle Society et al, tried to stop historic vehicles being crushed in the Scrapage scheme 500 or so vehicles were crushed  without mercy and no-one could do anything about it.

ABS will have to be fitted to all new Mopeds, Scooters & small Motorcycles adding weight & expense.

 Look @ the SVA approval test for Kit Cars or the Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval scheme (MSVA)http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022105

C'mon guys, wake up to the Bureaucratic crap that's on your doorstep, the days of worrying about Butter mountains & Wine lakes are long gone!
Enough said?

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JBW

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Re: Epetition
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 05:28:23 PM »
Oh John, please don't spam all over the forum... I know it's important but its flagged up as a new post every time you do :(
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Re: Epetition
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 07:13:29 PM »
Bomber, Just thought people might not see it in other sections, that's all, I will remove it in other sections if this is not the case!

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Re: Epetition
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 03:13:47 PM »
Thanks John although I agree the petition is worthwhile,

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Frank
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johnnyboy-wonder57

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Re: Epetition
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 10:20:16 AM »
There's an article here that explains things in detail.


Motorcyclists are @ the moment distracted by inflated values £££££££££, it leaves no room for anything else!!!!

So stop wondering ......what your 1934 Cleethorpes OHV 350 single is worth when auctioned by Bonhams & look into a possibly bleaker future, pushed through by virtue of no respectable concerted resistance!
http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/new-anti-motorcycle-legislation-sweeps-europe/

Seriously
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Re: Epetition
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 09:43:24 PM »
We all need to keep an eye on the doings of the bureaucrats in Brussels, no question about that, but these shrieking "they won't let us change the spark plugs on our bikes next" scare-mongering articles are getting tedious now, as are the seeming endless petitions to fight  the alleged proposals.

I suppose it's part of the Human Condition that we all need someone to "hate" en masse, but these continual cries of "Wolf!" really don't help anyone's cause.

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Re: Epetition
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 09:38:52 PM »
Rex,
When they changed the Learner law in 1971 they put the age of riding a motorcycle up to from 16 to 17, this coincided with a change in the Law to do with the School leaving age in 1972, in which as a 15 year old you had the option to stay on  at school till 16,  or leave & get a job. I was in the first cohort to have this option. This left 16 year old School leavers the only option of a 50cc moped licence & gave birth of the "Sixteener" special era.

By then of Course 1973, the Compulsory lid, (helmet) Law had  come in too, in the UK.

In the early 1980s,(1983), I saw the value of my second back-up machine I had @the time. plummet to half of its value , it was a CB250RS, I was not impressed.  It was Mark Williams of Bike Magazine, who first to my knowledge pointed out that the 16'r Law would lead to a lack of choice, standardisation of manufacture & increased control; next, as already mentioned, in 1983, they (the "knowing" ones), limited learners to 125cc, what they should have done is put a performance limited of say 17bhp & left the capacity up to 200cc, the "Trade" generally embraced the new capacity like a mother with a new child, more new machines, more profits, but it is my opinion that this was the beginning of the end as more & more control & Legislation has ensued seehttp://lightningpass.com/changes-motorcycle-learner-law
The cost of trying to run a motorcycle & getting your test is today is quite frightening for young teenagers, the choice out there of Learner machines is limited & quite appalling in my view & I believe people generally & the Young eventually do not respond to a Nanny state dictum, "of its dangerous so We will restrict & Legislate" ...soon they are going to push the Legal age for leaving Compulsory Education up to 18 for economic & political reasons.... more legislation will therefore ensue to do with personal transport & individual freedoms.

Smokers are now deemed pariahs, Drinkers, the Young, Motorcyclists & Car drivers too, produce \cvo2& poison the Earth?   & yet the nation of ours is awash with potentially lethal illegal drugs & many of our young teenage citizens die  annually , along with often their parents & their Grandparents, wasted on addiction & yet no serious action is done Nation-Wide to stop this insidious trade & Human tragedy, where does the money come from & who's controlling it?

This happens...& yet, " We" often let petty control go by unnoticed, if motorcycling was more of a valid option for young men in particular & not a State controlled parody, other less helpful activities controlled by big money & Gangs may have been overtly so prevalent over the last 25 years leading to many premature deaths.

I cry "Wolf" Rex, but I do not expect many to respond, so underneath my tunic I have a big Viking Woodman's axe to hit the bugger with, alas yet......another thing controlled by Law!

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Re: Epetition
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 09:30:48 AM »
Sorry,
It should have read
.......so other less helpful activities controlled by big money & Gangs may NOT have been overtly so prevalent over the last 25 years, leading to many premature deaths.

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