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VMCC library is free if you visit (I believe still the case even for non-members).
It's well worth a trip anyway.......
From their website it's £5 per hour, max £25 a day, or £37 to join the club for free access.
That's not too unreasonable and probably worth the trip as you say.

I've searched the National Library of Scotland's database but can't find anything.

Thanks for the pointers


Wee Macgregor burped up earlier in this thread, as well!   ;D

Does anyone know where back copies of The Motor Cycle might be held, and publicly accessible?  I wouldn't mind spending a day with editions from 1903 to 1930 - but where?

At least one more ....  The Templeton Brothers, of Sauchiehall Street made Tee Bee motorcycles for a year or two up to 1911

and the Kennedy Motor Company Ltd, Shettleston, Glasgow made a flat-twin engine in the 1920s, called Koh-i-Noor, which was fitted in some bikes, apparently. And cars. Kennedys made a Rob Roy motorcar
but it wisnae a big success!


Thanks for the replies, gents. I suppose the question is how to define the difference between a 'manufacturer', and someone who built a couple of bikes. 
I'd never heard of a Royal Scot, or a Wee MacGregor, come to that. Or a McKenzie.   



I'm trying to compile a list of motorcycle manufacturers based in Scotland over the years. I only know of a few  ....

The Victoria Motor & Cycle Company of Dennistoun 1902-1926
The Christie brothers from Dundee, although they only made a single bike. 
Dunedin Motorcycles of Edinburgh manufactured between 1902 and 1910
Myreton Motor Museum has a 1907 G.A.C.S. (Glasgow Auto Cycle Services).
William Beardmore and Co. produced the Beardmore Precision in the 1920s.
AJR was a short-lived affair in Edinburgh in 1925 & 1926
And Jock Porter built and raced his ‘New Gerrard’ machines in the 20s & 30s.

Anyone know of any more?


... if someone has paid a squillion dollars for the rights to very old photos, and published them in a lovely coffee-table book, you can scan the photos from the book (because they are free of copyright) and do with them what you will.

 or maybe not!

Apparently, if you scan someone else's copy of an image, you are breaching the original copier's copyright, (if you see what I mean).  For example: If I scan an original photograph, I have the copyright of that scan, so anyone who copies my scan is breaching my copyright.



Interesting! Both on the copyright question and the bikes.

I'm tempted to use it, and can now put a meaningful caption beneath it.  Many thanks.

If I can find out where the picture was taken, I'll report back.


I'll look into that, although "author" seems a rather grand word for what I'm doing! I'd never heard of them so thanks for the pointer.

I wonder how commercial photo archives can claim ownership of photographs which must be out of copyright (under normal circumstances). For instance – John Boyd Dunlop tested his prototype tyre in 1886, so the photograph has to be clear by now ... yet a licence to use it in a book costs hundreds of pounds.



Good spot with the Tax discs.

So .... Lets say the picture was taken in 1924.
Copyright in the UK expires 70 years the death of the photographer (roughly speaking), so if the photographer died on the way home from the photoshoot, the image would be out of copyright
in 1995.

Therefore, as long as he (or she) died within 23 years of the picture being taken, copyright has expired (like the photographer). And WW2 increases the chances of an early demise.
I don't wish the chap any harm, but I'm encouraged.




I'm impressed with the bike identification but you're way out with the fags. They're clearly Capstan. 

Best guess on a date?

 Here's a bigger version (I hope). Any info on bikes, dates or brand of fags would be welcome.  A special prize if anyone can tell me the location!


I'm new here and am sorry my first contribution is to ask for help! (Although in my defence I do ride a classic bike, a 78 BMW R100RS)

I'm putting together a guide book for motorcyclists visiting Scotland and am looking for a particular type of photograph to illustrate a chapter about Scotland's relationship with motorbikes over the years, manufacturers, great racers etc
I'm trying to track down a picture of a bike (or bikes) in Scotland,but not in a competition. There are a good number of pre-war Trials pictures around but I'd prefer something recreational, rather than competitive. I've found the attached which would be perfect but I can't establish the copyright situation so can't use it.  :-[

I wonder if any of you lot have a photograph in your possession which would suit, and for which you know the copyright implications. i.e. know who took it and how to contact a member of the family, or the copyright holder - and most importantly which you'd allow me to use.
A prize to anyone who can help me out (although I don't know what the prize is yet!).  Even if you can't help, it's a chance to share the picture below.

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