Author Topic: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!  (Read 21923 times)

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #300 on: June 03, 2018, 11:03:12 PM »
You cannot leave us without an ending. Please stay.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #301 on: June 04, 2018, 08:37:04 AM »
That was part of my point. After 143 posts by Terrot (only on this topic) and nine months, will there ever be an ending?
« Last Edit: June 04, 2018, 08:43:17 AM by TGR90B »
Getting grumpy.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #302 on: June 04, 2018, 10:40:21 AM »
 I disagree, It's entertainment, makes a change from "oh look at my overpriced new bike", or" I'm off on a cruise," or"I just watered my plants see the pretty pic" type of thing elsewhere.

I  am beginning to admire his misguided tenacity and the depth of his wallet, but I'm 80% certain there is something unfix-ably wrong here, sometime in the past incompatible parts have been fitted, some kind of mechanical/electric mismatch.

Personally I would have spent a fortnight in France doing the rounds of the jumbles there and found a replacement engine, for sure the only way would be to compare like with like.

On the bright side hopefully this saga will at least discourage others from buying old french tat. The cost of all this would have bought a decent old Brit classic.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #303 on: June 04, 2018, 10:58:25 AM »
Dead-on with the last sentence. It's a pet peeve of mine, all these half-complete Deco-style Frog things that enthusiasts think will be got running with a new plug and some juice.
Don't know why, it ain't my money they're spending but it seems wishful thinking to believe that they're anything other than garden ornaments, and as you say, a better home-grown bike could've been bought for less.
There must be thousands of 'em propping up the garage wall in the Home Counties, all for sale as unfinished projects and just needing a clutch/mag/gearbox internals/head/front forks to run.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #304 on: June 04, 2018, 01:24:44 PM »
yes, I  know really want to hear if it ever gets to run, properly.

I still have plenty of sarcasm left ;) 8)

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #305 on: June 06, 2018, 01:31:01 AM »
There is no such thing as unfixable...........years ago,when I had a crane truck,I picked up a 1904 Moon chassis,with a crankcase with four rods and pistons stuck up in the air.......might have been a steering assy and a ally diff housing  too,dont remember......I said.....Youll never get that going......two years later ,it was a going ,driveable chassis,and wooden bodyframe started on....so nothing is unfixable.......yet the original owners of these little poppers couldnt do the simplest maintenance job on them.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #306 on: June 06, 2018, 09:35:15 AM »
a bit like George Washington's axe though?

A subtle difference between unfixable and why bother?

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #307 on: July 04, 2018, 07:40:02 PM »
Hi Terrotmt1

Have you made any progress?

John

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #308 on: July 05, 2018, 12:00:16 AM »
there is a U tube video of a fellow delivering a wheelbarrow load of old bits to a restorer,and six months later driving off in a  Bentley..........so throwing money at a resto will definitely produce results.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #309 on: July 05, 2018, 09:15:13 AM »
But with a Bentley ie, either rare, expensive or both, there's reason to do that, but the same logic hardly applies to a Raleigh Wisp..

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #310 on: July 05, 2018, 08:00:01 PM »
Its the bloke who got paid drove the Bentley away..............

Bike owner went by bus.

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #311 on: July 05, 2018, 09:16:57 PM »
Hi All,
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so throwing money at a resto will definitely produce results

I dont know about that  ::)
there are plenty so called restorers out there who will take all your money to restore a bike
BUT it still will not be repaired

Beware of shiny sh1te  >:( >:(

I have lost count of the repairs I had to do to get some "restored" bikes roadworthy for the people who had bought them!!!
Almost impossible to try and go back to get satisfaction from sellers  :(

John

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #312 on: August 03, 2018, 01:02:52 PM »
I have a 1948 Terrot M347 which I restored some 18 years ago. I am sure that at that time, I managed to get hold of all the seals & bearings in the UK just from the part numbers on them. I would think that your engine is essentially the same as mine. The oil to fuel mixture for my engine is 8 to 1 from the original manual, so it might be worth trying that. Get ready for the smokescreen though!

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Re: Terrot MT 1, 100cc 2 stroke: non-starter!
« Reply #313 on: September 08, 2018, 09:18:09 PM »
Hello all.
Reluctantly, I will update you all.
It still does not run, but some details.
I re located the two ring pins and put it all back together.
Feels like nice compression, sucks well, blows well!

Fitted the original carb.
It fired about the 3 rd kick, but ran for about 3 seconds.
Would not re start. It has never run one stroke or many on this carb.

Put the big Dellorto on.
Started after some severe kicks but would not 'take' any throttle, crap response.

This poor response has repeated itself a few times, but really is is a non starter.
Villiers Services have nothing to add, and do not want to try to get it going...

I tried to get it going again last week and it actually ran of a sort.
It runs better with some choke on, let's guess ar 50% choke on which points to weak mixture.

About a week ago I kicked the thing nearly to death and really did a nasty to my right foot, so came to France for a break!
Doubt I will find a bike autojumble in Saumur.

Have been offered 1500 for it, a loss of 1000 if I sell.

So, better compression, good primary and a good spark, timing correct, point gap right, no joy.
And an offer for 1500.
Not much further forward than July.

Now you know where I stand!

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