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The above comments re Muslims being friendly and helpful, is quite correct.Especially when in their own countries where it is an traditional obligation to help the traveller, anybody read Dervla Murphys books? where she travelled alone by push bike through all those 'dodgy' countries.
The lone traveller through Iraq Iran Syria on the hippy trail also found the same thing to be true.

there is a big BUT factor....... these lone travellers were seen as poor people on a par with the locals and not as a threat. Its the same in most underdeveloped countries, my wife travelled the length of South America on her own, nothing but kindness from the local folk.

What we are importing here is a brand of religious fanaticism by brainwashed illiterates who have absolutely no concept of modern  life or of western North European values.
Their object is to drag us into the middle ages once more.



They are funded, in order to promote their own extreme version of the religion, by the Saudis to whom our establishment seems to be in thrall; Its the Saudi's behind the ruckus in Syria and the Arab spring BS.

Ideally I would like to see the dominant powers in the world join forces and beat the crap out of Saudi and run the oil industry between us, I would happily live out my life on petrol rationing if need be to see that.
But that's me being extreme and unreasonable . Much the same as the Taliban, whose paymaster is Saudi Arabia

But I wont expand on who is behind false flag attacks or are known  to make war by deception.
Look that up for yourselves.

On motorcycle topic, a good deal this whole Middle East disturbance is the result of the interference of the sodomite motorcyclist Lawrence of Arabia and his fantasies.


Don't get me stated on the quality of imported  craftsmanship, too many stories; the amounts of money exported by immigrants to this country, from what ever source, honest toil, or fraud is  frightening, and there is no proper audit.


Ps

Tandon was Indian by the way. But not Muslim.

 I have Indian friends if you want to really offend any of them, assume they are Muslim, or describe them as 'Asian'

PPS

Queen Victorias Who was of german descent.

I would say she was all German and so was her husband, and her descendants, till they got the wind up and changed their name in 1914.

As for that I regard the Germans, along with all the Nordic races as brothers, we are all of Celtic-Anglo-Saxon origin and culture.
That culture is increasingly under threat.

Our ancestors hewed these lands out of the retreating glaciers and wilderness, its ours, we stole it from no-one. We have nowhere else to go.
We have a right to defend it.

I  came from a working class family and was brought up on a council estate

Me too. and proud of it. Still in retirement a union member as well.

I too have had good experiences with 'immigrants' My daughters life was saved by the  quick diagnosis and instant action of a black doctor; I too have had needed assistance from  black guy after an accident in France, I have sub-let a flat to a girl from Cameroon, her and her families opinions on West Indians for instance cannot be repeated here.
That is not the point.
The point is waves after wave of unrestricted,  let em all in immigration which is causing grave disquiet in this country.

The immigrants themselves are not to blame for what happened to this countries industry, we are, in that we all swallowed the lies and bullshit spouted by successive politicians with their own agenda.
It is becoming ever more transparent, these other agendas but as we have bred a generation of sheeple and thicko chavs it is ever harder to convince them that it is so.

Even if we started to regenerate our industry tomorrow where are the skilled men? working in  B&Q,? or had enough, or retired or just too cynical. We need to teach kids in school the joys of working with their hands, the joy of making something, Instead schools are closing engineering or carpentry workshops because of "health and safety"
My own school which had well equipped carpentry and metal work shops is now a "Centre of Excellence for Performing Arts" in other words its teaching the hooded  2nd generation rubbish that haunts the streets at night to play the drums and dance.
Plumstead my roots, where my family had market stalls for generations is derelict crap hole run by Somali gangstas; gone is the Arsenal, Siemans , the shipyards and all the other industries, no one would want to work there  even if those factories survived its too bloody dangerous.
Its all very well to wring ones hands over the issue but the causes  and effects are there to be seen.
We were warned.

The bottom line is that you should never have bought that Japanese bike or TV, the German car, the Chinese tat of all kinds that's stuffed all our industry, not while the same thing could have been bought here, but you all wanted it cheap cheap cheap.

The most powerful political force in this country is the consumer, if only they'd realise it. If you don't buy foreign goods, the multi nationals profits will suffer and they'll look to make goods here if the demand grows.

Does no one feel ashamed that we import chicken from Thailand and south America to sell cheap chicken to mostly immigrants? or throwaway motorcycles from China, a potential enemy?

We had quite adequate commuter motorcycles or Mopeds made in France [yes I know that's outside UK as well] the Motobecane; cheap reliable easy to maintain, 200mpg, that was exterminated by the EU on "green" grounds. and we used to make them here under licence.

How many realise  that a huge percentage of Germanys wealth is solely because its a clearing house, import centre for Chinese made goods? They are the middle men of the EU, nearly all out imports from the Far east come into the EU via Germany.

Its all there to see, how why when who.

Its a gods gift to ranters this thread.

I thought you had had some answers? what applied to the demise of all our industry applied to the motorcycle industry, and there is little point in us amateurs discussing yesterdays mistakes.

That is if you believe its a "mistake" I worked in the motorcycle industry right at the very end, and its rapidly became my belief, which was shared among the remaining workforce, that  that asset stripper Denis Poore for one, had the intention to set out to destroy what was left of it.
Our industry, all of it, has been exported  to, for want of a better word, punish the British worker, and for short term profit for vested interests; hence even our basic utilities are foreign owned.
Equally responsible were the Unions, who probably helped to put as many workers out of work as the vested interests, riddled with communists or confused versions of it, there were intent on confrontation and happy to cut off their noses to spite their faces.
The working man was stuffed, as the closed shop was a tyrant.
Back in the 1960s I once had to go on strike for a day, in a south London factory, in support of a dispute in another engineering concern way up north; all that achieved was the loss of a days wages. Then I saw the light.


I did make the point right at the start that my views had nothing to do with skin colour, but it should now be obvious that it is becoming the dominant worry in this country is immigration, from anywhere.
Like it or not it, its Islam that's perceived as the threat. Rightly so in my opinion
A brown face does not make a Muslim.


One police force alone is arresting 33 immigrant criminals every day, mostly from East Europe. A brown face does not make a Muslim.

Whether they are all good or all bad it makes no difference this country is sleep walking into a disaster quite soon.
and as stated above everything these days seems to come back to immigration and the worry it is causing, the flight from inner cities etc

seemingly gleeful de-industrialisation of one of the industrial heartlands of the UK & the unstinting one- dimensional Political & Social solution of building 1000s of "Micky-mouse" homes

The two are irrevocably connected, what would you do with the site? build factories that make stuff we cannot sell?  using skills we no longer have or train in? the houses are being built because of the increase in population which is out of hand and its out of hand WHY?

 Hopwoods book seems to pop up on various forums from time to time, prompting debate about things past, have you not thrown bait upon the waters and caught a bigger fish than you expected?


Motor cyclists are heartily disliked by the establishment for the reason that riding motorcycles shows an independent turn of mind, and worse still a desire to be an " Individual" the biggest crime one can commit in this country today.

Its a bugger of a subject this, and bound to cause upset to someone.

It would not have been a Model H.

Yes I find its the same everywhere but people are terrified of speaking their minds in case the PC brigade scream Raciss! at them.

And its not all about skin colour either its about attitude, ethics and morality.

Th PC lot are correct in one thing, this country has always given refuge to the refugees of the world, difference is this time we have allowed into our country a set of people whose avowed intention is to dominate us.They have no intention of adopting our culture of way of life.
That is the difference between other waves of immigration and this one.
They are waging economic and womb warfare.
We have rolled over and are too cowed to do something about it, our political leaders are nearly all of recent foreign ancestry and have their own agendas.

We need to speak out loudly and often, or your granddaughters will be wearing hijab.

and to keep it motorcycle related I have no wish to see the bikes I have preserved from our industrial heritage being broken up in 50 years time in order to use the wheels for a donkey cart.

Anyone who wants some strong stuff to read and to read about the sort of story that is kept out of the media is welcome to PM me for a list.

If the Islamic  birth rate of those already here increases at the same percentage year by year as it has already by 2040 this country will be 80% muslim.

The establishment have taken away our guns; yet there are certain sections of the population walking about with all kinds of weapons yet the yumman rights brigade have given them apparently irrevocable British citizenship so they cannot be got rid of.
We have no means of defence; the same crime committed by a white English man merits a more punitive judicial punishment that the same crime committed by a cultural enricher. I have strong views on who why what is behind it all, not for here really, but its time we woke up.

I'm glad I'll not be around to see the debacle.

 I hope we are not on the way to upset the mods here.
I'll state right here and now, I am a proud white English nationalist.

I saw some at Netley.
looked bloody rough.

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