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I need to buy a villiers 9d engine, anyone has one for sale?
Thanks
Paulo

I don't own it, but the own it, my neighbor bought it thinking that was a "normal" bike. I bellive he will sell it.

I allready have one exacly like that. You hel pme identify it a couple of years ago
http://classicmotorcycleforum.com/index.php?topic=4897.msg19814

I would change the engine and ride it. Very nice bike.

I will try to find more info and share with you.

Does it say WINCO? If so, it's off a bike so rare I can't even find a photo of one. 1920-22 they say, but they didn't advertise in the Motor Cycle or exhibit at the Show.

I will try to "clean" the lever a little more. See the new picture attached with a draw of what I can see (white line) and what I think I can see (blue line)
We would all like to find a "treasure" but that should not be the case

The hand lever is a seperate piece. You can't be sure it is an original part of the whole mechanism. All that trademark identifies is the lever itself. It is not a good indication for who manufactured the rest.
I agree the change is well made and has all the indications of a commercial operation but I see it as an aftermarket accessory and probably nothing to do with any gearbox manufacturer. Eventually one day the information will just fall into your arms but I wouldn't let it distract me from getting the bike back on the road.

I very much appreciate the process of researching and discovering the history the story behind each piece.
I think the lever could be part of the change/kit because otherwise it wouldn't have a lever or it would have the original Sturmey Archer lever.

This bike had a different life... ehehe

If not foot change, where does the linkage go??

Leon

Look what I've found. This looks to be the pedal to change gears...

Nicely made, but not by Sturmey Archer, and certainly not in 1928 when foot change was not even common at the Isle of Man TT race! That said, someone has gone to a lot of trouble, and personally I'd keep it as part of the bike's history.

The other option is to convert it back to how it was (worm clutch and hand change).

Leon

Why do you say it's a foot change? The bike came with a hand lever (also different from the usual sturmey archer, see the pictures above)
If I manage to put everything working, I will leave it as it is.

Most Sturmeys of that era you'd expect to see a clutch worm to activate the clutch pushrod.
Has yours been changed to something different ?

This is Norton rather than Sturmey, but the concept is the same.

As far as I can see my clutch actuator is different. Please see the image bellow and tell me your opinion.

Can you make this gearbox work with what you have ?
Boxes then didn't have a positive stop mechanism, so someone may have been updating/improvising ?

Does this bike look familiar ?  Bit small to see good detail though.
If you zoom in, it looks very much like what you have ?

Or this previous thread

http://classicmotorcycleforum.com/index.php?topic=4832.0

Hi again,

Yes, the bike is the same from that post o mentioned. I inherited the bike and now I'm going to restore it

I'm trying to put everything together to find whats missing, but it'a my first time, so I will have to search external help.

I have many pictures from bikes like mine but any of them have the same gear changer system that mine have.The lever its very different.

Are saying that they didn't have any gear lock mechanism? And this could be an improvment?

The gears shaft is drilled. I think to pass a pin that will activate the clutch.

On the other bikes there seems to be a "screw" that will rotate and push the clutch. I don't have that mechanism