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Offline Burt

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Difference betweek Triumph Bonneville models
« on: November 14, 2009, 06:09:47 AM »
Hello,
I am looking to purchase a 1970's Triumph Bonneville.  Can someone please advise me the difference between say a 1979 T140D and a T140E.
Also how does one read the engine/ frame numbers to ascertain the specifications of the bike, i.e. build date etc
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Re: Difference betweek Triumph Bonneville models
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 08:04:54 AM »
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Can someone please advise me the difference between say a 1979 T140D and a T140E.

Hello Burt,

The 1979/80 T140D (Bonneville Special) normally had the small US style fuel tank, US handlebars, a two into one exhaust system, Lester cast alloy wheels, black paint job with gold pin striping, plus a few other minor styling differences to the 'E' models, although some D's built for the UK market had the larger UK/general export fuel tanks and standard two into two exhaust system.

    
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Also how does one read the engine/ frame numbers to ascertain the specifications of the bike, i.e. build date etc

You can tell the build date (to the nearest month) from the two-letter engine/frame number date code prefix.

However, various sources often list the build date prefixes, but unfortunately tend to leave out the necessary information on how to interpret them, which can often mislead an owner into believing that his/her T140/TR7 was built a year later than it actually was!  

To explain, Triumph (and BSA) production of their new 'year' models usually began when the factory re-opened after the summer holiday shutdown period during the preceding year, so bikes built from approximately August(J) to December(X) would be stamped with the new year prefix letter, but were actually built during the 'old' calendar year!
Note that 1979 D & E model year production started in July of the preceding year instead of August (J), at 'HA' 11001 (H = July, A = 1979 model year) so HA actually indicates a build date of July 1978.

Triumph serial numbers and date codes: http://www.tioc.org/serial_numbers.htm


The actual model type i.e: T140V, T140D, T140E etc. should also be stamped on both the engine and frame, and both serial numbers would have matched when the bike left the factory.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2009, 10:20:39 PM by L.A.B. »
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Re: Difference betweek Triumph Bonneville models
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 07:57:28 PM »
If you're looking to buy any Bonneville you'd be best advised to buy one of the books written about them. For example, John Nelson's book 'Bonnie' gives a development history and a year by year specification breakdown from the original '59 to the final Harris built models. This way you can check the spec. of a bike you're interested in to make sure it's all there and not a 'bitsa' special, asides from figuring out which model & year would suit you best.

70s Bonnies go from the most revered 1970 model to the least liked (71) then through allot of stages of development (750, electric start etc.), and knowing the 'year' will set you in good stead - the various 'varieties'will be variations on the particular year's specs.

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Re: Difference betweek Triumph Bonneville models
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 04:44:34 AM »
Thank you for the information.  I am getting a dvd "The story of Bonneville" for Christmas.
I didn't realise that the T140 had year followings some better than others
I will take your suggestion and read up.
Thanks Kev