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Dad's old ???? Sloper from 30's any ideas?
« on: May 14, 2008, 07:53:12 PM »
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a) Definitely not a Rudge, but that said I’m not sure what it is. I’m usually pretty good with the type of bike that came to Australia, even c1930, but this one…    I notice that one of the photos is labelled “BSA”, and in fact the frame looks very BSA. The sloping motor was also a BSA thing, but not this particular motor. All BSA slopers had the oil in the sump that was part of the crankcase at the front. Unless it’s a “special” (a late 1920s vertical BSA motor grafted into a BSA Sloper frame), then it’s not a BSA either. The problem is that I have a list of things that it isn’t!

b) so far opinions are that it is a Rudge, by the rear sprocket and sweep of the pipes, plus the primary chaincase and shape of the tank

c) The sloper has us all miffed and there is a good chance it could even be a home brew.
It is fairly unusual for a motorcycle engine to have exposed strengthening ribs  but not so uncommon for a stationary engine to have extra strengthening added to cope with the higher loads
It is a twin port sloper that is sure and from the size of the pots I would think that it was 500cc or larger.
Again I do not think that it is a BSA the cases are the wrong shape, the strengthening ribs on the crank case is not usual on BSA's & the primary chaincase is also an unfamiliar profile.
Sloping engines were all the rage from mid 20's till WWII and just about every marque had a sloper or two in their range. I am not a motorcycling historian by any stretch of the imagination and what knowledge I have picked up over the years is specific to BSA and I seriously doubt that either was a Small Heath product.  What I can say with 100% confidence is that it's not a Gold Star.

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Re: Dad's old ???? Sloper from 30's any ideas?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 10:11:46 PM »
And here is the picture...


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Re: Dad's old ???? Sloper from 30's any ideas?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 08:32:58 AM »
It's a Dunelt fitted with a Sturmey Archer engine.
The Dunelt, made by Dunford & Elliot used a unique style of front fork of their own manufacture which makes it easy to identify.
In the very late '20s they ceased building their own two stroke engines and started to use proprietary Raleigh/Sturmey Archer engines. What Raleigh did was sell their own Raleigh engines but re branded them as Sturmey Archer. The only difference between the two is that they removed all external Raleigh identification on the Sturmey Archer variant.
Dunelt ceased manufacture somewhere around 1934 or so.
There are several survivors around the Sydney area in NSW so they must have sold reasonably well.
Cheers,

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Re: Dad's old ???? Sloper from 30's any ideas?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 10:00:02 PM »
Thanks very much for your id. Now to try and find one. I will start by looking for some Dunelt enthusiasts or club over here and in the UK.

Thanks again , your help is much appreciated.

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Re: Dad's old ???? Sloper from 30's any ideas?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 09:35:14 PM »
You might find this website useful
http://www.dunelt.has.it/