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james / barnett 250 or is it????
« on: June 29, 2010, 07:49:10 PM »
hi all , i wonder if you can help me .

im selling a bike for my dad on the dreaded ebay but there seems to be some confusion what the bike is

frame number : DF91**4BW

Engine number: M25T19**4

these numbers have been confirmed with james factory records and comes back as a JAMES 250cc

what we have discovered is the bike is not a comordore and the engine is clearly marked 'james'

i recieved an email from someone who said and i quote:

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The frame number only suggests it being a model 91 Cruiser, this is just a theory.
 
If the James data base is correct ( note: James didnt produce a model 91) then it is a very rare model that most of us havent heard of or probably ever seen.


now it wouldnt be out luck to have a rare model but can anyone shed any light on it??

here is the link for the bike on ebay with more details.     thank you

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180526354200&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT


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Re: james / barnett 250 or is it????
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 12:38:16 AM »
Can't shed any light on your particular bike but it doesn't at all surprise me. At the time Francis Barnett and James were being amalgamated at a great rate and the parent group, AMC, were going out backwards even faster.
AMC were always good at the parts bin shuffle producing 'new' or 'improved' models made up from the same old bits hoping to attract a paying customer. Your bike is a classic example. It's nothing new, just the same old stuff wrapped up with a different ribbon. In the same period as your bike they were selling in the USA another James/Fanny Bee lashup as the Matchless Pinto but it was still just the same old stuff but with a Matchless badge.
It didn't make any difference, the Japanese had arrived and this type of British lightweight just couldn't compete. This was the time when I bought my first Suzuki. It didn't just run rings around its equivalent British lightweight, it tap danced, sung the Hallelujah Chorus and played the ukelele while it did it. Riders took one look at what the Japanese offered back then and British lightweights were dead and buried.
I don't mean to sound negative. We love the old dears and they have their place in British motorcycle history and they are certainly loved in their old age but "rare" implies something exotic and mysterious and exciting. What you have is a curiousity, definitely not rare and exotic.
Cheers,