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350 Enfield info please
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:04:16 PM »
Does anyone have any info on this bike?, it belongs to a friend and looks like me in the not too distant future.
He thinks it may be a competition model, all I can tell you at this time is that it is a 350 and has a 21in front wheel like a scrambler or trials bike.
I don't have the engine or frame numbers yet.



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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 01:31:48 AM »
Good detail view of someones t-shirt !
Looks like a Bullet that someone has mucked about with, judging by the number of bits cobbled on, and original road bits still remaining - concentric carb, megaphone, headlamp brackets, no front guard. Could well be a later tank on an earlier bike too, just to confuse the issue.

The trials or comp models were quite specialised models, although most of the bits could be adapted to the road bikes, with varying degrees of success....

Hopethishelps.

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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 06:16:06 AM »
HI R, I took these pics a couple of months ago and at that time there was no indication that I might end up owning it so they were purely  interest pics and not something to source info from.
The bike is 1000K's from me so I guess I should wait till it is here before going further with this thread.
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 11:25:53 AM »
I admire your acquiring it before identifying it !  The useful thing about restoring older Enfields is that a lot of the modern Enfield stuff from India will fit, and is reasonably inexpensive. And have reasonable comfort and performance compared to a lot of the alernatives of the time, Enfields were streets ahead of most with rear suspension.

Why ye stray from the VJMCC bikes ?

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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 01:02:55 PM »

Why ye stray from the VJMCC bikes ?

Clearly he's had one of those Eureka! moments.   After all, you can only obsess over the correct shade of white for the speedo needle for so long.... ;)

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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 01:53:01 PM »
 :) not straying too far, currently doing up a 89 zxr750, next on the list is a 85 gixer, then a 69 YR3 yam and then a 70's 500 Ducati, I just like everything:-)
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 07:55:54 AM »
Finally have this bike in the garage now, stuff happened and it didn't make it here till now. The mag had a issue but once sorted it started second kick and motor is super quiet internal.
Needs general road worthy things like tyres etc but it would be pretty simple to get this unrestored road or usable ready.
All indications lead me , and others, to believe it is a 1956 trials replica, the lights, (battery total loss) ,seat and tool/battery boxes are retro fitted, the bike never ever came with a lights power source and the mag cannot be fitted with a kill switch function. The swing arm also matches the trials 350, the scrambler version was a heavier type, both front and rear guards are alloy. The seat is actually 1964 Lightning Rocket Clubman which i will probably use on my A10 cafe racer.

Where some paint is peeling off the frame it looks like it was once a bronze colour, it is very hard and may be possibly an original colour,  does this ring a bell with anyone?
The eng num in G2-364, that's it, the frame is G2-11977, or at least looks like, hard to tell for sure till I scrape in down a bit.


















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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 10:36:42 AM »
Nice find, should be a lot of fun.

Its parentage is not quite as obvious as you may like though !
It looks to have more bits of roadbike on it than you would expect for a comp bike.
The Trials Rep had an alloy cylinder, Lucas wader maggie, lightweight hubs and lotsa trials bits.  Most singles of the era were stopped by the decompression release, the singles mag didn't have provision for an electric 'off' button. What maggie is that on it, looks Matchless ?

That gearbox was last used for 1954 (mostly) and 1953-55 was also the years a lot of Enfields were painted what is described as "Polychromatic copper beach" which is (presumeably) a bronzy colour. (not any 350 Bullets though).  The compy/trials 350 models were a silvergrey colour. Tank seems to be a few years later, and the rear mudguard setup is roadbike, as is the rhs toolbox. Wheels/hubs are roadbikes too, and the Concentric Amal is 1966 at least.

Not uncommon to see bikes stripped down or converted for competition / scrambling / trials use - and then ridden home afterwards in that era.
Someone probably had good use from their Bullet, a very versatile bike.

The Enfield Owners Club can search their records, for a fee, and give you more details. If the engine has been fitted into another frame though (because of that bronze colour) then probably none too helpful.

Have fun !

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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 12:44:59 PM »
think your right, I have done a lot of googleing as you do when a new toy arrives but it has been hard to find any real info on this bike, it does seems to be a mix, in the end it doesn't matter I guess, whatever it is  it is mine:-)
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 02:37:39 AM »
Road based bikes are more all-round fun than the trials bikes, which are rather specialised. And you get better brakes, although there is still room for improvement.
Plus, you've got the best looking tank ever on an Enfield ?

An earlier trials model.. Not sure they got that green shade correct !?
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqR,!jYE2Gy)-+8lBNpNNN829g~~_12.JPG

There is nothing to stop you making your bike more like this, or a later model of - as owners did back then - afterall, thats all the factory did.
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 02:25:21 PM »
can you just list the item number please, the link did not work for me.
Not sure how I will proceed yet, but I do like the look of the 51 model


Love that muffler style, where to get??,  Do you know if the seats those Indian ebay sellers sell will work ok for my bike?
I would also like a set of headlight brackets as in the pic.
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 02:39:58 PM »
Instead of clicking the link, copy the whole line and paste it in the address line of your web browser, it works fine then
If iver tha does owt for nowt alus duit for thissen

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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 02:44:32 PM »
Looks like the neutraL finder futtock pedal is missing I think that goes on the third shaft sticking out of the gearbox. One for kickstart , long curvy one for gears and a little one for the finder.
Rode a 500 once but never managed to find neutral with the gadget so best of luck matey

Hitchcocks Motorcycles in Shirley Warwickshire UK are good for RE bits I am told.... they were made not 12 miles from where I am sitting now tryping this in Redditch.
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 05:07:13 PM »
Looks like the neutraL finder futtock pedal is missing I think that goes on the third shaft sticking out of the gearbox. One for kickstart , long curvy one for gears and a little one for the finder.
Rode a 500 once but never managed to find neutral with the gadget so best of luck matey

Hitchcocks Motorcycles in Shirley Warwickshire UK are good for RE bits I am told.... they were made not 12 miles from where I am sitting now tryping this in Redditch.

Yes I will need to find a parts book so i can order those missing bits, just part of the fun:-)
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Re: 350 Enfield info please
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 05:08:26 PM »
Instead of clicking the link, copy the whole line and paste it in the address line of your web browser, it works fine then

thanks, the bike looks, well, umm, yeah:-)
cheers... chris dupen
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