More foreign made rubbish bsa A10

[Rex]

I think the problem stems from the fact that they're making these parts "in isolation". If they were based in Birmingham they would have ample chances to see the parts being used (or not) and correct any mistakes, but when they're 3000 miles away and the boss says "make one of these" the workers have no real clue as to it's exact use or the critical dimensions and specs.
That and the fact that they copy/counterfeit anything from drugs and surgical items to nuts and bolts, and all done as cheaply and as poorly as possible, and the possibility that the goods could be unusable/unworkable/feckin lethal doesn't really concern them.
Bad enough that we export jobs to these places and import their cheap crap, but when it's unusable crap and impossible-to-deal-with call centres etc it makes me fume....

[johnnyboy-wonder57]

hi,
I still think a LIST, is a viable project, it would weed out the disreputable, dishonest & downright rip-off merchants, if we need to, I will do a separate web-page & put it on-line!

But the information has to be true, not just revenge, hear-say & petty grievances.  The shisters already know who they are!


Cheers

John

[johnnyboy-wonder57]

Guys,
See India's best @ work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0D51t9D9I

Not British enough?!!

Cheers

JBW

[wetdog]

they are infact not that good , but where is the alterative ?

[Rex]

Not that good at all, in fact, for a country which tries to position itself as a global industrial player, they're laughable.

Good for India's home market in that they're fixable and simple, but a bit of joke on the international stage, and how the testers etc bill-and-coo when the Indians actually fit bearings, bolts and cables of sufficient quality to last as long as any other make.

[Goldy]

I disagree Rex, Jaguar/Landrover where in big trouble at one time, now they have the best productivity and profitability ever. Who owns them? Tata and where are they from? Yes India.

[Rex]

The big difference is that Jaguar/Land Rover is UK-based using UK production part specs and expects to sell to "developed" markets where performance and reliability are the norm.
 They are Indian owned in as much as that's where the current finance comes from, but I rather doubt J/L-R are sourcing cheap bearings and bolts etc from the brother in law's Third World factory in Hyderabad.

Buyers "tolerate" the performance and reliability issues of Enfield because that's what they expect from a new "old" bike, plus they're relatively cheap.
J/L-R on the other hand are seen as a premium brand and to compete with Audi, Porsche, BMW, Lexus, Merc and the rest they need to be several quantum leaps above Enfield's production techniques.

[wetdog]

they are building a factory abroad to build land rovers , but say its only for there home market , which as we all know is the biggest market , i think they may be in trouble over here very soon

[yorkshireracer]

I' ve had same trouble with a Matchy I' ve just restored for a customer. He insisted he supply all the bits. Most of it through owners club. What a load of tat ! Everything from  nuts and bolts that don't screw together and inconsistant finish to cables the wrong length or wrong nipples. Twistgrip from Asia that was 2mm smaller at one end than the other !! The list goes on.
    I run a motorbike engineering business in New Zealand specialising in pre 90' s Japanese and specials building but also do Brit stuff ( I was brought up on Triumphs and BSA's). I' ve been looking at building repro stuff for a while simply because I can' t get stuff of a decent quality. Big problem is, being stuck out here I'm not sure what things are likely to sell.
    I' m just going to throw this out there and would welcome your comments,
If people could give me an idea of anything they have trouble with and would like better quality. Anything from small brackets to seat bases.
Would people be willing ( if I can' t source original parts here ) to supply me with an original part I can make A RELIABLE copy from and in return I' ll provide a new part for cost of postage.
Alternativly, if anyone as parts that are no longer good enough to use but that are ok as patterns, I'd be happy to buy them.
I' m happy to have a chat with anyone who thinks they can help or my e-mail is <mes@slingshot.co.nz>
ALL help, pointers would be appreciated.


       

[wetdog]

a friend of mine has just opened a bike buissness on Wikkiki island (over the ferry from Auckland) his name is Tony , get intouch and im sure you could do some bussness , hes from the isle of wight (where he owned island motorcycles) and is into british and early jap bikes , says the race sean is very good over there and has been to a lot of meats inc tazmainia , we still do swap trade parts as demand there is good for hard to find parts .