Vintage white wall tyres.

[mini-me]

I have found a entry for New Henly in a 1929 magazine. I will scan it in later

If that albion gearbox is two speed, [have you looked?] it would have been fitted with a 196cc Villiers engine

[33d6]

The Sturmey Archer engine number is a code that tells you a lot about the engine. If you put up the number I'll give you what I can.
And I think the Albion gearbox is too light for what you have in mind.
Cheers,

[mini-me]

here you are, 2 speed albion, 196c Villiers engine.

[R]

If I can get a JAP 350cc OHV engine & Burman Gear box and a I will fit them.
So if anyone has them and wants to swop with a Nice 350cc Sturmey Archer SV engine & Albion 3 speed gear box let me know.
As usual money is always a factor.
I can only do my best.

On that basis, some of us think that you should build it with what you have.
This penchant for rebuilding things utterly factory has got to stop !!
Removing all the history along the way....

With the proviso though that if things don't fit, you won't resort to chopping off any stray brackets or bits,
but rather fab up brackets spacers etc to suit.

Look forward to hearing how it goes.

[cardan]

This penchant for rebuilding things utterly factory has got to stop !!
Removing all the history along the way....

Let me guess that there is no "history" of these cycle parts with an Albion box and S.A. engine.

I wonder why "rebuilding things utterly factory has got to stop". I'll be pleased while there are some people at least trying to get things right, and in this case the top mount Burman is an integral part of the interesting fame design. Why not try to find one? How? Advertise everywhere you can think of. Seek out every New Henley owner and ask them. The box is not very interesting, or even valuable, but it is correct.

Re the engine, a side-valve JAP would be an excellent option. Most of the OHV motors have been shoved into frames in which they don't belong anyway, to create "new history". I don't like it, but I don't think it has "got to stop".

Cheers

Leon

[R]

Why find a sidevalve JAP when it already has a sidevalve SturmeyArcher though ?

Getting it running with whatever is to hand is likely to take decades less than finding all the 'correct parts ?,
and coercing someone to part with them.  Especially if the budget is limited....

You seem to have completely misconstrued my words too, so its tough to reply to that ?!

[cardan]

The side-valve JAP would share crankcase mounting detail with the correct OHV, making it easier to fit the correct motor when it comes along - and it will if you get the bike running and rideable. It's not correct, but not as incorrect as fitting a completely random motor. Engine plates, oiling, magneto, ... would be the same as the OHV.

The side-valve JAP motor was reasonably common and should be findable and inexpensive. The years 1920 to 1930 follow the word PNEUMATICS (P=1920, N=1921,...) so a good motor would be 1928-29 (I or C) with 1927 or 1930 possibly OK too. The 500 SV is usually K, so the engine number would be something like K/I 9999 for 1928 or K/C 9999 for 1929. The 350 would be J/I 9999 for 1928 etc.

Like S.A., Blackburne and others, JAP would supply motors for everything from lawn mowers to concrete mixers to railway inspection trolleys, so it's buyer beware as usual.

Leon

[mark2]

love the OEC anyone know of one for sale

[mini-me]

Hub centre steering OEC?
you'll be lucky

[mark2]

the forks do look very interesting I will keep my eyes open

[mini-me]

  Hub centre steering..........No forks in the normal way of things.

I have only seen 3 or 4 bikes with that set up over the years; one with a sidevalve  V twin engine owned in the1980s by  a guy in london, he's now dead, one with a silver hawk engine now in Sammy Millers museum, the others I cannot properly recall.

I fear you'll be looking for a long time and need very deep pockets

[mark2]

failed on both then , to old and short arms 

[mini-me]

You too?

If interesting forks turn you on look at a 1947 FN 450cc

[mark2]

that is a mess even if it works well , I fail to see the beauty in earls also but each to their own 

[cardan]

Some possible Burman boxes for the New Henley - not exactly right, but close?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221858058337

Ditto, not as complete and no clutch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221858042553

Or this sporty one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//221858036494


Leon