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Dkx2a distributor
« on: September 27, 2015, 05:32:29 PM »
Hi Has anyone had this problem! I have a 1959 triumph thunderbird on which I do the ignition timing manually,if set it on the right hand side at 32'' as recommended, I find that if I then check the left hand side it's 70'' advanced. I'm assuming the cams are worn unevenly as when I turn the cam  half a turn the problem switches sides but I'm getting the same situation with a reconditioned cam from Distributor doctor, does anyone know of any other reason for this.Thanks John

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 06:53:36 PM »
dizi shaft bent or needs rebushing

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 09:05:32 PM »
Hi MARK2 If the shaft was worn or bent, would'nt the advance settings remain.the same whichever way I fitted the cam.John

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 06:08:40 AM »
have you a pair of centres and a dti , try also using a strobe and note the difference , I have one here so will take a better look but I have been told that there can be some accuracy issues with this setup , how are you measuring the ignition ? the cap is another area for a in balance

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 09:22:06 PM »
Hi Mark2 I tried another test, I fitted a couple of fiber washers behind the points to move them out to a different contact area on the cam, this did even things up a bit so I contacted Distributor Doctor and he  says he has several spare cams but could'nt guarantee how accurate they are, so the only way to check them is to send him my distributor and he'll experiment,so that's what I'm going to do. Thanks for your help and suggestions, very much appreciated. John

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 10:20:14 PM »
reconditioned cam from Distributor doctor ,? did you not get the cam from him in the first place

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2015, 12:22:29 AM »
Yes I did get the cam from him! He should'nt really sell them if he does'nt know if they are accurate, they have been machined and have a nice finish so if anyone does what the workshop manual says and timed there engine just on the right hand side, they would never know. Coarse he may have bought them in believing them to have been machined to the correct contour, he seems pleasant enough and helpful.

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2015, 06:10:23 AM »
let us know how you get on , I have never used him myself but see he does state on his web site his dizis are better than new (lucas) I find that part a bit hard to swallow

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2015, 09:48:38 AM »
Which is why people buy electronic replacement ignitions,instead of wasting money on the worn out original.Regards John.

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2015, 04:40:05 PM »
electronic replacement would be the way to go , and a few to choice from

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2015, 10:09:34 PM »
I expect it could be set up better than a mass produced original, with time, patience and lots of springs etc to get the advance curve spot on but perhaps people are just saying it looks good. I do have a Bouyer points assisted electronic system fitted, i was'nt aware I could buy an electronic system to replace the distributor.

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2015, 06:13:52 AM »
I think it replaces the points assembly so it keeps the original look , the machine for cam grinding blanks is some kit (martin russel has one) I would be interested to know if the dizi doctor has this machine also or is the buying reground cams from china , he may bend the points post (some say set) and send it you back with the bill , how did you measure the figures you quote

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2015, 01:26:26 AM »
Hi I doubt he has a grinding machine or he would know the accuracy of his cams, I think bending the points post probably would'nt help because whichever way it was bent the two cams would still be different distances from it. I set my ignition timing using a dial gauge screwed into the plug hole right hand side, engage top gear, find tdc turn the engine back about 150" to take up any free play in the gears then turn  it forward and set the distributor with the points just opening at 32" before tdc, if I then check the left hand side I find the points open at 60" before tdc using my cam and  70" with his. I did have a 3,100 S Ford Capri fitted with a Lumenition electronic system which replaced the points but It was surprising how not having the resistance of opening the points upset the advance curve and of coarse I still would have the worn distributor.i think most must get them repaired as he's very busy and quotes a six week waiting time. John

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2015, 06:28:01 AM »
I would not  worry about the advance curve , by 2000 rpm its fully advanced ,but its nice to get the balance as close as poss and think that's where the electronic would work best , I use the piston stop with a disk and split the result to find tdc

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Re: Dkx2a distributor
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2015, 10:10:56 AM »
When I was gainfully employed,we went well into distributor problems on a fleet of forklifts.One dizzy sent in to a well known and recommended repairer came back seemingly tight and ok,within a few days of 20hr/day running it was just as bad as before.I pulled it down and found they had bodged it with plastic filler and washers.From then on ,only new electronic replacement distributors from a Belgian crowd called TVH,costing less than the recon bill.A Lucas dizzy has a lot more bearing surfaces than just the shaft.They all wear and add to the looseness.Regards John.