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Offline tracy_garbett@hotmail.com

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« on: November 12, 2016, 11:25:42 AM »
Hi I am,a bit new to this so I hpe this is how I get some info for my father in law he has a 1923 Radco no2 unrestored and running he also has loads of other things like engine some plans gear box lots of diferent things anyway to the point he is getting on now and wants to sell all he has what we need to know is how would he get a valuation as such or dose anyone know the value of this bike and where he could advertise for the best possible outcome any advice would be welcome Tracy

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Re: radco
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2016, 11:41:56 AM »

Auction
The only way your stuff will find its market value.
Valuation of unseen unspecified parts is impossible.

I suspect, from much experience, that your father in law  may have a delusional idea  of the high  value of his stuff.

The Radco is a nice bike, quite rare.
You could try the VMCC who will have a Radco specialist to advise.

Be wary of folk wanting to cherry pick.

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Re: radco
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2016, 11:16:28 PM »
Hi Tracy
Whatever you do, don't wait until the "deceased estate sale"
From my observations this leads to very low sale prices :(
Beware of "sellers premiums" at auction  these suck away even more of the value  >:( >:( >:(
I hate to talk about eBay but it opens up a worldwide market  ::)
Do a lot of research before making a decision

John



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Re: radco
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 12:48:24 AM »
Hi Tracy,
As another Radco owner I'm fairly familiar with them. They're uncommon as are all 1923 motorcycles but not "rare".

The Radco No 2 was the bottom of the range and available in three versions. Single speed, no clutch, no gearbox, push start. Or with clutch and a 2-speed or 3 speed gearbox. You need to be fit and healthy to ride the single speeder, those with a clutch and gearbox are much more civilised and consequently of slightly higher value to most buyers. You need to ascertain which Model No 2 your father in law has.

Both Mini-me and Chaterlea25 post many good points. Auction is easy but you pay, Ebay will get you more but is very labour intensive and takes a long time. It'll drive you crazy. And yes, people will want to cherry pick for the good stuff and leave you with the hard to move left overs. And also yes, don't wait for the 'deceased estate sale'. You have a common problem that comes to us all and there is no easy way out. Having just done this with a family member I can say don't be obsessed with the maximum price be far more concerned that every one is reasonably happy at the end of the process. You won't please them all but you do want to be on speaking terms afterwards.

Best of luck.


 

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Re: radco
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 06:59:12 AM »
I recently used this site below to sell a bike. It went quickly and for the price I asked.

No fees, and the advert stays live until sold. Plus world wide coverage, good for europe especially.

When selling on any site,good clear photos are very very neccesary, both sides of abike, plus close ups.
same with loose parts, arrange on a good clear background, in some kind of order, not just boxes of bits.

Beware of scammers, for cynical disinterested advice in that dept, ask here ;)

I echo the bit about estate sales; I have had some very unpleasant experiences inthat area.  Sadly the old bike movement is quite well equipped with vultures who are keen to rob a grieving family.

That's one reason I just sold one of my bikes. Cash in Hand for my daughter is better than a load of old iron.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/free_advert.php

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Re: radco
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2016, 08:03:49 AM »
thank you I will try the web site we are  worried that he thinks the bike is more valuable than it is.

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Re: radco
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2016, 08:06:08 AM »
thank you for all advice I know people will try and take advantage of him this is why we want to help thanks zgain

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Re: radco
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2016, 10:53:09 AM »
everything depends on condition, originality, completeness, desirability of maker,  and  in reality age comes way down the list.

Its a nice bike to have, I'd quite like it but I'm getting shot of bikes not collecting them anymore.

it might be worth £500 or 5000, somewhere in between is much more likely.

Can you not put some photos up?

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Re: radco
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2016, 12:13:23 PM »
In some respects the older the less sellable.
Although many would argue that belt-drive/single-speeders/etc are perfectly useable, the reality is they're not, especially in general 21st century traffic, and so a bike from the 1930s with proper clutch gears and oil pump would be better if someone actually wants to ride occasionally rather than just have a pretty ornament.
Not to denigrate your bike in any way, just pointing out that the old boys who could appreciate a Radco would also appreciate an easier ride..

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Re: radco
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2016, 04:53:28 PM »
in will to put some photos n  probably will have to ask my son how I understand the advice about the bike all depending on condition etc.
the bike is running and in good condition I did not list the the items as I was not making a sales add just trying to find out more about the bike the "stuff" is spare engine petrol tank clutch plates original factory drawings for the engine he has had the bike for ages and has really loved having it he has took it to show so I will ask him what he wants and to say to be realistic about price and put it on the web site suggested still not really sure what a realistic price is ha so thanks again for all your  help

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Re: radco
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2016, 05:33:37 PM »
A realistic price is one that leaves buyer and seller happy.

Up and running is a whole different state of affairs. Puts a different complexion on things.
I for one had thought you were describing a project.

If all the spares are for the bike, my advice would be to sell them with the bike, I think it will add ££££ to the value, and after all there is not exactly a huge market for Radco spares.

I hope it has its original registration and a V5? that too adds value. Has it a full set of lamps? +++++£
As he has had the bike for so long I think a written account of its history, how he found it and when, what he did to it, any prizes he won with it, all that sort of thing is very nice to pass on.

I would consider two options; the site I linked to, and ebay.

Advertise it for what you'd hope to get for it, [hopefully after a bit more advice] plus agood  bit more, ebay will take a big lump, and anyway you'll need a safety net.

Advertise on ebay with that  fix price but as open to offers. That way it will be listed for 28days, and can be relisted free.  You have no obligation to accept less than you list as.
If it doesn't sell its too dear, but I am sure you'll sell it.

At the same time put exact same ad on the classic car site.

If you have never sold on ebay I'll happily guide you through things to do and not to do.[ scams to be aware of]

love to see a photo or two.

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Re: radco
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2016, 06:29:14 PM »
That sounds like it could be a nice buy for somebody!

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Re: radco
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2016, 11:11:58 AM »
here are some photos I hope

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Re: radco
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2016, 11:13:17 AM »
and one more taking me ages but you have ben very helpfull

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Re: radco
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2016, 11:49:36 AM »
What cracking little vintage bike.

just the right condition, untouched and should be left exactly that way.

Impossible to give you a price really, it will find its price at auction, I wouldn't be surprised to see it reach 6k ++ considering thes tuff that goes with it.

A specialist auction is the best bet now, do some research and don't be in too much of a hurry.
unless of course someone here wants to make a proper offer.

good luck