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Triumph Trident
« on: December 23, 2007, 10:32:25 AM »
G'day,

I've recently acquired a T150 Trident which I believe is a 1968 model - unfortunately everyone seems to think that there's no such thing as a 1968 Trident, presumably because they weren't sold to the home market until '69.  My question is, does anybody have a reliable list of frame/engine numbers for the triples, starting from 1968?

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Re: Triumph Trident
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2007, 06:33:35 PM »
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unfortunately everyone seems to think that there's no such thing as a 1968 Trident

The information you have been given is basically correct, in that the are are no actual '1968 production year models'.

But... the *production year* of Triumphs and BSAs did not match *calendar* years.
Production of bikes for the new year season normally started around August of the preceding year in order to build up stocks of machines and to enable them to be shipped worldwide (mainly to the USA) for the new year season.

T150 production for 1969 actually started (somewhat slowly) around June 1968, at engine/ frame number *T150T 101*. These early machines have some slight technical differences, like the 1968 pattern front brake etc..

Later in 1968 the BSA-Triumph group added a two letter date code prefix to their numbers (see additional note below), the first letter showing the month, and second letter the *production year*.

http://www.triplesonline.com/bikes/dating.asp


The first production year letter used (for 1969) was *C* so for instance, a Trident with an AC number prefix would have been assembled around January 1969, however one with, say, an NC prefix would have actually been assembled around October 1968. But if your T150 is a very early 1968-built one, then it won't have that two letter prefix anyway. Practically all of the early production bikes went to the USA, as they were not generally available to buy, even on the UK market, until early 1969.

The engines were built, stamped, (the date code stamp was added at Meriden apparently) and then stockpiled until they were used on the production line, as Triumph Trident engines were actually made at the BSA plant at Small Heath and then delivered to the Triumph factory at Meriden.

The engines were then used on the Meriden production line in a random sequence, the frames being stamped on the line to match the actual engine number that had been fitted.

TriplesOnLine http://www.triplesonline.com/ is a very good website for Trident and Rocket 3 owners to find out information, and it has an excellent forum, and I hope you will consider joining the group?      


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I believe there is some disagreement about the exact month that the Triumph factory actually started using the date code system on Tridents?
« Last Edit: December 24, 2007, 05:40:24 PM by L.A.B. »
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Re: Triumph Trident
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 09:55:35 PM »
Ah I see, all very interesting information - I had suspected as much, but it's good to have someone explain definitively

my bike number is T150 T 231, so just as a rough guess it was probably stamped in June/July 1968?

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Re: Triumph Trident
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2007, 05:50:55 PM »
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my bike number is T150 T 231, so just as a rough guess it was probably stamped in June/July 1968?


Yes, it would appear that yours is quite an early one! *155* and *222* are still known to survive, but I expect there's probably a few with lower serial numbers than yours still out there somewhere?
« Last Edit: December 24, 2007, 05:52:30 PM by L.A.B. »
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Re: Triumph Trident
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 08:34:51 AM »
Just a quick question - where is the horn supposed to be located on the 'Dents? I have a suspicion that this one is 99% complete, and the 1% it doesn't have is the horn. That's going to be painful to replace if it's not where it ought to be.

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Re: Triumph Trident
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 09:13:27 AM »
I guess your bike is only 98% complete then!

As there should be twin 'Clearhooter' horns (Windtone P101/P201) fitted to lugs on each of the subframe tubes just in front of the shocks.

Used *genuine original* Clearhooter P101 & 201 horns in good working condition are *extremely rare* and highly sought-after items, so any good ones on offer are normally VERY pricey!

Replicas are available but they are still quite expensive @ £170.00GBP a pair!! http://www.burtonbikebits.net/clearhooter_horns.htm

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