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Model G Engine Identification
« on: May 20, 2008, 12:12:30 PM »
Hi all

I got an Enfield Engine beleived from Model G..The number is G 4171 but I am not sure its exact model year..1947..48..??
Does anyone could help to identify?

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Re: Model G Engine Identification
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 04:21:54 AM »
ACCORDING TO AN OLD BOOK I HAVE FROM 1950 ABOUT REPAIRING ENFIELDS.
MODEL G'S WERE 346cc  BUILT IN 1937 & 1938 AND AGAIN FROM 1946 T0 1949. NO ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE GIVEN SO I CANT BE MORE SPECIFIC.
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Re: Model G Engine Identification
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2008, 10:30:54 AM »
Thank you..I beleived also it fall between '46-49 coz it used telescopic fork..anyway I am interested in knowing its exact year,may be someone outside there have the manufaturing database for Enfield model and could help me...

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Re: Model G Engine Identification
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2008, 04:31:39 PM »
Because Enfield numbers follow no obvious form or pattern, its very difficult to find number lists.  I quote Roy Bacon from his Royal Enfield: The Post-War Models:
'...the numbering sequence is known to be random to some degree and not to follow any pattern which would enable the information to be set out in an orderly fashion ... Fortunately the records do exist and are contained in some 37 ledgers, each 27" x 18" and 3" thick, all held by the Royal Enfield Owners Club dating officer.  He can provide the date of dispatch, and often the destination, of any machine on receipt of the engine and frame number.'

So on the strength of that I would advise you to try the Enfield Owner's Club

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Re: Model G Engine Identification
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 08:12:05 PM »
The REOC should be able to provide you with specific dating information about an individual machine but they're likely to insist on you joining first.

There probably is some pattern behind Enfield numbering but one of the problems is precisely that all the records (apart from some early vintage stuff with the VMCC) are held and jealously guarded by the REOC. They refuse to allow any outsiders to view the ledgers for historical research and will not answer queries relating to groups of numbers so it is inevitably difficult to form an overview. This would not be so bad if the club itself were to create a database and publish general findings but they seem to find this too much trouble as well.

Sadly their attitude is in contrast to many of the other one-make clubs and in particular to the VMCC who see it as their task to make this type of information available rather than hide it away.