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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 29, 2023, 10:38:31 PM »
1931 and 1932 have 1930 specs.
Clymer became 'English Motorcycles' -'Clymer Motors in 1933.
George Wallis designed frames

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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 28, 2023, 10:05:41 PM »
The DT was last listed in the 1933 catalog with no image. The Rudge site lists the catalogs.
Victor Martin was the only dealer of JAP engines from the factory. The Comerford predates the Martin frame- Rudge copy

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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 27, 2023, 09:54:21 PM »
Rudge DT was listed in 1933 catalog but it is unknown if any were built. That would make them 1932.
JAP dominated the track by then.

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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 27, 2023, 09:47:45 PM »
The Crocker frame was built around the Indian engine. This same frame was used for the 1934 OHV single.
The Rudge frame was never used. That would take 2 bikes to make 1. The Rudge DT was last listed in 1933 catalog. The JAP was the king of the track.

This bike has Indian on the tank not Crocker, because it's a Crocker frame but Indian engine.

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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 27, 2023, 09:36:24 PM »
Victor Martin was the distributor, direct from JAP. He later took over Comerford. His Martin frame was a copy of Rudge. The Comerford had  a forged head

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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 25, 2023, 09:46:21 PM »
1936 LA yellow pages. George Beerup and Fred Schunk. Both of these buildings are still standing today. Can be seen on google maps. Beerup shop is now a "Green Cross"




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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 25, 2023, 09:45:29 PM »
This is from LA business directory. Fred Schunk was an employee of A H Crocker


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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 25, 2023, 09:43:50 PM »
A 'Rudge-Crocker' would be a Rudge frame and a Crocker engine combination = never existed.
A search on the net will show 'Rudge-Crocker' examples at the auction houses, which is where and why they exist. MONEY!

The design of the Crocker is certainly based on British engines. It made sense to take a close look at Brit bikes.   
Charles Franklin designs were based on British bikes. He died in 1932 and Indian had no one to design anything.

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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 24, 2023, 10:46:07 PM »
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American Bikes / Re: Crocker Speedway
« on: August 24, 2023, 10:45:17 PM »
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American Bikes / Crocker Speedway
« on: August 24, 2023, 10:44:43 PM »
resized to 24%

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American Bikes / Re: Last of the Crockers
« on: April 05, 2023, 06:25:50 AM »
page 3

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American Bikes / Re: Last of the Crockers
« on: April 05, 2023, 06:25:18 AM »
page 2

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American Bikes / Last of the Crockers
« on: April 05, 2023, 06:24:04 AM »
February 1970, Cycle-Sport mag, by Geroge Hays



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American Bikes / Re: Crocker custom
« on: November 23, 2022, 07:50:32 PM »
Here is the 1972 article






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