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Identify these bikes! / Re: L'il Villiers
« Last post by 33d6 on July 25, 2026, 03:16:45 AM »Looks like a regular pre-war Model 0 Excelsior to me but with the slightly sturdier pressed steel forks as used on other model Excelsior at the time. Easily identified by the frame number. The post war Excelsior had both a different frame and the gear change through the tank nonsense. We all know that the Waratah was simply a rebadged Excelsior and this is just another example.
The frame number will tell all.
The prewar model looked quite different from the postwar job with its utterly different exhaust layout and different inlet manifold. Nothing that makes any difference to the performance but just makes the beast look different from the other hordes of 9D powered bikes. The tight money woes of the thirties plus the looming war clouds where everyone knew petrol would be scarce and fuel economy was going to be a big thing led to a surprising number of manufacturers to bring out a 9D powered bike. I have a 1939 Montgomery and a 1940 Excelsior on the bench at the moment. There's little difference between that Waratah and my 1940 Excelsior.
The frame number will tell all.
The prewar model looked quite different from the postwar job with its utterly different exhaust layout and different inlet manifold. Nothing that makes any difference to the performance but just makes the beast look different from the other hordes of 9D powered bikes. The tight money woes of the thirties plus the looming war clouds where everyone knew petrol would be scarce and fuel economy was going to be a big thing led to a surprising number of manufacturers to bring out a 9D powered bike. I have a 1939 Montgomery and a 1940 Excelsior on the bench at the moment. There's little difference between that Waratah and my 1940 Excelsior.
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