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British Bikes / Re: Hot Start Problem
« Last post by Billington on Today at 08:34:42 PM »
Based on your diagnostic advice I went on a long ride. The air temperature was 26°C, 69% humidity (hot and sticky). The bike started easily on the second kick, then ran beautifully.
I then stopped the bike at the top of the hill an immediately attempted to restart the bike, however it simply would not start, not even any signs of firing. So I tickled the carburettor until fuel was seeping out of the bottom wholes, then kicked it over but it still refused to fire. So I put the bike in second gear rolled it downhill until it picked up speed then let the clutch out, it started and rode all the way home without any hesitation.

When I got home I stopped the engine and immediately attempted to restart the engine, but again it would not fire up. I then sprayed some Holts Easy Start in the carburettor at which point it started and ran without any problem.

About 3 years ago I started to have issues when running the bike at temperatures over 20°C. After just under 2 miles the engine would stutter and come to a halt. The carburettor would be very hot, hence the petrol had become so hot it vapour locked the carburettor. I was using E10 fuel (in the UK this means it can have up to 10% Ethanol). I resolved this by using E5 in a see through container then removing the Ethanol by employing the water method (Ethanol is hydrophilic), after 2 days I remove the water, leaving just fuel. I also added a 6mm Tufnol spacer. Finally, I changed the route of the copper fuel line from the fuel tank to the carburettor from behind the cylinder head to the right-hand side, where it could be in the air stream.

Because the bike started when rolled down hill I thought that this pointed to the condenser, however because the bike will start on Easy Start, I’m not sure. What are your thoughts?
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British Bikes / Re: Hot Start Problem
« Last post by Billington on Today at 06:52:33 PM »
Thank you everyone for your kind advice I will try your ideas.
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British Bikes / Re: Villiers XIIC 148cc doesn’t run anymore
« Last post by john.k on Today at 07:20:39 AM »
I see one of these engine on FB for a coupla bucks .......flywheel missing ,so its just parts.
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British Bikes / Re: Hot Start Problem
« Last post by john.k on Today at 07:15:49 AM »
Fail to start can also be flooding of a hot motor ...........I diagnose start problems with a can of starting spray ......this stuff will fire with flooding or with fuel starvation .......but it wont fire with no spark.
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British Bikes / Re: Hot Start Problem
« Last post by 33d6 on Today at 03:15:33 AM »
Of course the magneto could fail after little use. Age and how it has been stored since last done can have serious consequences regardless of mileage done.
I’m currently amusing myself with three radio controlled helicopters. All N.O.S, all received in their original unopened packaging, all looking perfect but all non running due to battery failure through sitting around for the last ten years or so. Electrical equipment can do that if left sitting. Look good externally but moulder away internally. Very frustrating but that’s how it is.
As R says it could also be vapour lock. Side valve engines do tend to run hotter than their OHV equivalent and I have seen some poorly thought out fuel line arrangements as well as R’s failure to fit a Tufnol heat barrier twixt carb and cylinder.
Nevertheless I tend towards electrical failure as my own experiences with vapour lock have been on stinking hot summer days with the engine smelling like a fifty year old fish and chip shop on a busy Friday night. Not just a mere hot start issue.
Tell us how you get on.
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British Bikes / Re: Hot Start Problem
« Last post by R on Today at 12:13:36 AM »
Sounds like a failing condensor again, doesn't it. !
Do you know what the rebuild used - not a NOS one, we hope. ?

Another possibility is vapour lock.
Have you checked to see how warm the carb/manifold is when you pull up.
Those heat insulating tufnol type gaskets were added to many a model,
to help prevent this happening in hot weather.

So if you pour icy water over the carb and it still won't start, then try it over the maggie.
Preventing water ingressing to inside the works - a tricky situation.
Have fun, tell us how it goes ...
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British Bikes / Hot Start Problem
« Last post by Billington on June 28, 2025, 10:17:40 PM »
My 1932 BSA W32-6 500cc side valve will not start when the engine is hot. It will start when cold with just one kick and run beautifully, however if I stop the engine and attempt to restart it when it is hot it will not start.

I had this problem in 2017, which I solve by having the magneto rebuilt. I’ve done approximately 800 miles since the magneto was rebuilt by Tony Cooper (I believe he is now retired).

Could the magneto have failed again with such little use or should I look for other issues. I would be grateful to hear your kind advice and details about how to diagnose this and correct issue.
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British Bikes / Re: Villiers XIIC 148cc doesn’t run anymore
« Last post by R on June 22, 2025, 11:29:27 PM »
So what was your magic trick to start it ?

When my trusty lawnmower 'fails to proceed', I find a teaspoon of fuel down the plughole
invariably brings it to life.

,and these people didnt appreciate speedway riding in their grounds.

Funny about that ?
Those were the days  ...
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British Bikes / Re: Villiers XIIC 148cc doesn’t run anymore
« Last post by john.k on June 22, 2025, 06:38:51 AM »
I recall when we were kids ,a friend in the next street had one of these .........he couldnt get it going ,ever .......we used to go to his place get the bike going ,race around the streets on his fathers mower petrol until it ran out ..........there was a school and a church across from his house ,and these people didnt appreciate speedway riding in their grounds. ...........I had a terrific crash on it and tore the inside out of my knee.
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British Bikes / Re: Troubleshooting a JAP Special
« Last post by john.k on June 22, 2025, 06:25:33 AM »
The exhaust seat has been well recut (several times) and pocketed ......not that it matters for road use ..........however it means that a new seating ring cant be fitted without major expense..........If your timing is extreme ,you need to be sure the valves wont collide ............Must say it seems strange to me that Burlen and others sell replica Amal carbs for astronomical sums ,when you can buy new carbs for 15 quid on ebay or temu.
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